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      • ruaok
        that way you check them once a month.
      • Shepard
        I would mark those not rechable first and only delete them in the second run
      • nikki_
        yeah, same
      • ruaok
        nikki_: simpl, base it on time.
      • nikki_
        so you'd need a lastchecked thingy somewhere
      • ruaok
        nope.
      • nikki_
        hmm?
      • ruaok
        time() mod (60 * 60 * 24)
      • gives you day you're in.
      • nikki_ blinks
      • mod that by 30 and you get a date 0 - 29
      • on the first day, do the first 30th of the URLs
      • on the second day, do the second 30th of the URLs
      • your script, once invoked per day, would do the right think.
      • some border conditions could be lost. eh.
      • nikki_ will take your word for it
      • you'd get the next month.
      • ruaok hates keeping state of ANYTHING
      • nikki_
        why?
      • Shepard
        oh and of course wp, discogs, ... urls can be excluded
      • ruaok
        its a pain in the arse.
      • yllona is listening to Frankie And Johnny by Brook Benton from Best of Brook Benton [Mercury] (1961) (0:13 / 2:28)
      • just think of you having to rmeember things.
      • how oftern do you forget?
      • wolfsong13 is listening to Leela James - Soul Food [from "A Change Is Gonna Come" (2005)]
      • keeping track of state is always a pain
      • that's why HTTP is a stateless protocol -- its easy and simple.
      • yllona switches up for wolf
      • yllona is listening to A Change Is Gonna Come by Sam Cooke from Ain't That Good News (1964) (0:06 / 3:14)
      • keeping track of state in HTTP is cookies and all the compllicated mess.
      • Shepard thinks that way we would drop thousands of wikipedia urls just because there server is down when the script is running ;)
      • Shepard
        *their
      • wolfsong13 wanders off to eat
      • ruaok
        relax, we're not just going to delete them.
      • Shepard
        but also bombing their server? ;)
      • Nyght
        yeah, that's sorta why I personally think it's best to have a person checking them
      • one was a really slow load, but it was present.. things like that.
      • ruaok
        Shepard: > wait a second, do next one.
      • common web practice.
      • one hit per second is not bombing
      • Shepard thinks it doesn't work without a bit field keeping state
      • Shepard
        no you misunderstand
      • ruaok
        state of a url?
      • Shepard
        the bombing was just a joke
      • yes
      • Nyght
        and I honestly have no idea how the program is "hitting" but it seems like it's about every fifteen seconds, or so.. I hope it's not making a load on the server.
      • ruaok
        write a report: todays URLs that didn't answer [ Delete ]
      • Shepard
        what do you want to do when the script checks a url and the server is not reachable?
      • hm
      • well I think a script could delete them automatically
      • ruaok
        it could.
      • and the script could be written to keep some state.
      • Nyght
        I would imagine you would want to spot check the list at least.
      • ruaok
        if the state happens to get lost, its start from the beginning.
      • Shepard
        why should it get lost?
      • do my albums in the db get lost, too?
      • ruaok
        the feewer state files we need to keep track of, the fewer things we can screw up.
      • thus is something recovers gracefully, we don't have to really care.
      • thus leaving more time for the things that we do need to care about.
      • Shepard
        if (however that should happen) the state gets lost, that's not critical
      • ruaok
        ding
      • ruaok can live with that
      • nikki_: are you done yet? :-)
      • all this keeps distrating me from 1090
      • Shepard
        pasta needs its time...
      • ruaok
        as do regexps
      • yllona
        shep: what type of pasta?
      • Shepard
        I don't know, ask nikki
      • ruaok wasn't asking about the pasta
      • I know
      • ruaok reminisces of the last pasta he ate. on a glacier a week ago
      • nikki_ hat keinen hunger mehr!
      • ruaok
        yay
      • nikki_
        yllona: farfalle
      • well, it was
      • now it's pasta-mush in my stomach :D
      • Shepard
        du meinst, du bist satt?
      • nikki_
        ja!
      • yllona
        farfalle with waht type of sauce?
      • nikki_
        tomato
      • Shepard
        keinen hunger mehr haben would mean you don't want to eat it :)
      • yllona
        nikki: tomato and ?
      • yllona apologizes for the specificity ;)
      • nikki_ wouldn't want to eat regurgitated pasta...
      • nikki_
        er
      • sun-dried tomato and herby stuff and whatever else!
      • yllona
        nikki: sounds good
      • nikki_
        I think it has onion in it
      • yllona
        and garlic (i hope)?
      • nikki_
        probably, I didn't read the ingredients
      • Shepard
        you need herbes de provence!
      • yllona
        ah, sauce in a jar. some of those are quite good.
      • nikki_
        yes
      • it *is* half three in the morning...
      • yllona loves herbes de provence, so convenient
      • nikki_ doesn't know of them :o
      • Shepard
        french stuff
      • yllona
        nikki_: basically dried summer herbs
      • not necesarily french either
      • Shepard
        well that's what the name says
      • nikki_
        ah
      • french fries aren't french either...
      • yllona
      • Shepard bought them there several times
      • but these herbs grow wild and/or natuarally in any "southern clime"
      • most of these herbs are everywhere in cali.. same for spain or italy. but the packaged dried herbs are really convenient. super tasty and work well for veggie, meat, pulry or fish.
      • *poultry or fish.
      • so yes, shep an essential for the ktichen :)
      • Shepard
        yup
      • yllona
        good choice
      • yllona remembers when shep was shyly asking questions about cooking
      • Shepard
        I did?
      • yllona is amazed how quickly shep has learned
      • oh no, those we have used here for years ;) I'm still not a big cook
      • yllona
        shep: yes, ssenrupus was cooking a pie... it was a while gao
      • Shepard
        oh yeah, I recall
      • yllona wants everyone to cook (well) it's so relaxing (and healthy). a major creative out let
      • nikki_
        it's not relaxing or healthy when you're like me :/
      • I made very bad cake!
      • the first was ok, but it got worse
      • yllona
        nikki_: you're a special case :)
      • nikki_
        I guess so!
      • I can boil water and make pasta!
      • but pretty much everything I try and *cook* is a disaster
      • yllona
        shep: all i'm gonna say on this matter -- all of the men i know are excellent cooks. mostly began for purely economic --- eating out is too costly
      • nikki_
        apparently my supposed father was a good cook
      • I didn't inherit his skills, it seems
      • Shepard
        or it is cheap at the uni canteen but doesn't taste at all
      • yllona
        shep: did i share this site with you? http://www.cookingforengineers.com/
      • nikki_ giggles because she remembers 'mensa'
      • Nyght
        would someone please check this link for me? It's just hanging and I'm not sure if that means it's broken or not. http://go.to/dahlback
      • yllona is listening to Get Together by Lizz Wright from Dreaming Wide Awake (2005) (0:07 / 4:42)
      • Shepard
        yllona, sounds interesting, bookmarked
      • nikki_
        it sorta loads for me
      • but there's nothing there but a grey box
      • ah, iframes
      • Shepard
        which is a layer banner ad
      • yllona
        shep: it's an excellent site. i'm an experienced cook, and the recipes/advice is solid
      • Shepard hates those
      • nikki_
        and flash...
      • Nyght: it appears to work, except I can't see it :)
      • Shepard is glad he's gonna see his mother again next weekend 'cause noone can cook better!
      • yllona
        Nyght: flash-heavy, large adverts at the top. i can swiitch browsers. if you need it.
      • Shepard: absolutely :)
      • Nyght
        Ah, no that's okay, if both of you got it to load. (I imagine that's why it doesn't want to load on mine.)
      • just means I go on without deleting. :D glad it was just me. Thank you both!
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