#musicbrainz

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      • catgroove
        brackets work fine
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      • keschte
        as you wish.
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      • nikki_ doesn't see the problem with English, Latin [edit] | Album, Official [edit]
      • teleGUISE
        that's backwards from the norm nikki
      • nikki_
        well, I like it more my way :P
      • catgroove
        uhm. wtf is a release event?
      • a new type of mod?
      • teleGUISE
        hey.. i'm ok with it
      • nikki_
        and not quite, the mb way includes spaces
      • teleGUISE
        you are clicking on the [edit] button
      • nikki_
        the mb way always seemed odd to me
      • teleGUISE
        keschte: hey we need to get dmp_panda's release event editor incorporated into that.. though it wasnt quite working
      • catgroove has been looking on this page for nearly 5 minutes and still hasn't figured a way to get to the *album*
      • well a 100%.. not sure if he finished it up
      • keschte
        yeah, you keep him editing too much. no time for dev work he?
      • catgroove
        good i feel like a oob again. when this goes live i will have to turn of my automod privs
      • it's like having to go through puberty twice :)
      • teleGUISE
        i see my white space error still hasn't been taken care of though
      • keschte
        ?
      • teleGUISE
        entering a " 9" for the month returns no month and defaults to the year only
      • catgroove
        ketchup: where do I click on http://test.musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.... to get to the point where I see an album page. at all? anyboddy? help
      • teleGUISE
        or "9 " etc...
      • keschte
        aha.. haven't looked at bugs which aren't attributed to me :)
      • teleGUISE
        i forgot who that was assigned to.. i think lukz
      • keschte
        catgroove: if clicking on the name of the release doesn't work, then its a bug
      • nikki_ wonders what's with the tiny fonts, the tinier fonts and the microscopic fonts
      • catgroove
        its a probløem when you edit the dates too. already filled in dates on artists or AR's have lots of spaces in them, you have to delete all the spaces before you can edit f.ex. the year
      • keschte
        nikki_: use the user preference to turn those off
      • teleGUISE
        oh no it wasn't lukz it was Fuchs - http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/1101
      • keschte
        almost the same, for english tongue...
      • hehe
      • catgroove
        ketch: I cannot find this 'release name' you uspeak of
      • keschte
        ?
      • nikki_
        why do all the all the things I hate have to be on by default? it means I can't use mirror servers :/
      • teleGUISE
        that should be a trivial simple fix...
      • keschte
        the title, in the orange bar.
      • catgroove
        where on the page do I go to get to the album
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      • which of the edits?
      • the language is greek to me
      • keschte
        because, like we established today are most of the time alone in hating things :)
      • catgroove
        it just says details in unclicable text
      • keschte
        mo, the "album/release" is collapsed to save a bit of space
      • catgroove
        I don't understand what you mean
      • keschte
        if you want to look at details, you can click on the orange bar, then it opens
      • catgroove
        what orange bar?
      • Kerensky97
        I can click on the "Details" and get to the album.
      • keschte
        if you want to go to the album page, you click on the title of the album
      • catgroove
        ok, what of these mods is an add album mod?
      • keschte
        lol.
      • catgroove
        because I see no album name anywhere. only names of mods
      • teleGUISE
        keschte: guess the automod checkbox shouldn't be shown if the mod still is applied even if it is turned off, eh?
      • edit that is
      • catgroove
        now imagine 200 newbs asking this everyday
      • keschte
        if its an automod, it still is.
      • ie for normal users
      • complicated stuff, this moderation... tell ya
      • nikki_
        keschte: in the preferences, the update button shouldn't be in the privacy settings box, because then it seems like it only updates the settings for that box
      • teleGUISE
        i turned it off but it still applied it
      • keschte
        catgroove: to be precise. i don't see mod names either ;)
      • teleGUISE
        is that cuz its on test?
      • ron_frown
        ruaok - you ever eat at jaffa cafe?
      • catgroove
        ... but.. why?
      • ron_frown
        oh damn its the bomb
      • catgroove
        I realise it 's cool and everything but
      • why?
      • keschte
        not the first time you see it :-)
      • catgroove
        see what?
      • yes it is
      • I don't uderstand this page, i'm sorry ketch
      • keschte
        ok. i give up.
      • someone help me
      • catgroove
        nevermind. its me woh is the problem
      • teleGUISE
        ok i confoozed it applies the edit regardless if my automod privies are off anyway
      • keschte
        teleGUISE: if you can reproduce the autoeditor privs issue, please enter a ticket
      • nikki_
        how do I get the add release edits to really show all the release?
      • keschte
        remember that some edits are autoedits even for normal privs
      • teleGUISE
        ok just to be sure.. removing a Release Event should not be applied if automod privies are off .. correct?
      • catgroove
        what is arelease event?
      • keschte
        nikki_: click on the title, or turn off the collapsing in the browse edits box above
      • nikki_
        why is it on by default?
      • I turned showing all the release on in my prefs :/
      • keschte
        teleGUISE: yes, it shouldn't
      • nikki_
        I didn't expect that to mean that it wouldn't
      • keschte
        nikki_: not the prefs, but the settings on this very page
      • nikki_
        that's confusing then.
      • keschte
        the option in the prefs page is that the html is actually rendered into the page.
      • teleGUISE
        keschte: ok so you want a bug ticket or should I find if more edits get applied anyway with automod privies off
      • catgroove
        what is a release event?
      • keschte
        teleGUISE: please
      • teleGUISE
        mo click on it and see! :)
      • nikki_
        yes, and then you hide it, despite me saying to display it all...
      • then I have to unhide it *again*
      • teleGUISE
        Event = Date
      • catgroove
        so release date+
      • ?
      • teleGUISE
        no Release Event
      • catgroove
        yes, release date?
      • why was that changed?
      • keschte
        nikki_: thats why there is a setting on this page to turn it off.
      • catgroove
        release event makes no sense
      • nikki_
        keschte: why do I have to turn showing it all on *twice* though?
      • keschte
        for most voters, it is simply annoying to scroll past 10 add release edits they don't know nothing about.
      • nikki_
        yes, but that's why showing the whole release isn't on by default
      • keschte
        then disable the collapsing for chrissakes.
      • nikki_
        ...
      • keschte
        if you don't like it, turn it off.
      • nikki_
        I'm asking why it's the *default* setting
      • catgroove
        can I turn of the entire redoing of the site? :p
      • keschte
        bye :-)
      • catgroove
      • keschte
        i can't take too much of this at once...
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      • nikki_
        well leave then.
      • good riddance.
      • catgroove
        well maybe you should focus on fixing actual bugs instead of trying to fix what works (ie layout)
      • grmbl
      • ruaok
        please be nice to keschte.
      • nikki_
        no.
      • he wouldn't answer me
      • teleGUISE
        keschte: oh... you pissed him off..
      • nikki_
        he jsut gave me "well turn it off"
      • ruaok
        he and I tend to be very sensitive about our work...
      • catgroove
        I'm trying to be nice to him but he insults me I have very little patience when that. and whenever I see test I am gipped by a paniclike fear that ultimatly looks like "omshit mb isn't supposed to look liek that will it????"
      • I try really hard not to but
      • aarrg wtf RELEASE EVENTS?
      • ruaok
        catgroove: but you react like that all the time. :)
      • catgroove
        and why do you uthink that is?
      • he's fixing thisngs,.. he's using his awsome talent on stuff which is.. well not necessary
      • ruaok
        release events is actually the right terminology, data wise speaking.
      • teleGUISE
        but you probably shouldn't beat up layout issues unless they cause a bug.
      • ruaok
        ding.
      • catgroove
        yea. and not a nob in miles will understand it
      • no I lie, they will
      • its all lthe regualrs that will lhave to go back to school again :9
      • ruaok
        look at it this way... his work will be great improvement.
      • teleGUISE
      • nikki_
        in some respects...
      • but when I question things, nooo.
      • ruaok
        and if people here don't get everything they want, so be it. if its truely broken the community will voice its opinion.
      • e.g.the toolbar.
      • teleGUISE
        an event is a time and place something happens
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      • ruaok
        there was much back and forth on that and we finally got something settled.
      • teleGUISE
        so like ru said Event is correct in terminology
      • ruaok
        and since we're fixing a great number of terminology issues, lets make everything correct.