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      • Prodoc
        mornin'
      • slaad
        Back up.
      • Prodoc
        a mod note: 'There isn't an official nine track version, though obviously many collections will have split files for tracks 8 and 9. I think there are various examples of releases split up like this already in the database but I don't know what the official policy is.'
      • what is the official policy? As far as I"m concerned releases with split tracks shouldn't be added
      • slaad
        I was under the impression 3 yes votes passes a mod?
      • Nyght
        okay great! I just had a few notes of asking me why I voted no, and without a note, and all I could figure was it was a misclick or something.. it bothers me, because usually I do leave notes, and of course it was bad cause I got tied up with family stuff for almost a week.
      • slaad
        You did leave a note :)
      • Nyght
        prodoc, what is official for the disc release (factory) is what mb generally follows. Irreguardless if it's a split track or not.
      • slaad
        See?
      • Nyght
        as far as the yes' votes, if there are no negative votes, indeed it passes.
      • If there are negative votes, then it is a check against affirmative votes./
      • slaad
        What if it gets extended because it has no votes?
      • Nyght
        You didn't accept my apple sauce though. ;P
      • slaad grins
      • slaad
        If I accepted it, you wouldn't feel so ashamed. And then there's no fun ;)
      • Prodoc
        I mean when someone split up a track them selfs it shouldn't be added
      • Nyght
        LOL Ah, but applesauce is tasty!
      • agreed prodoc.
      • I guess I misread that.
      • slaad
        Hrm... can't say I've had apple sauce for a long while.
      • Nyght
        oh just befuddle me with facts why don'cha
      • slaad shall
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      • Muz
        From deep within the depths of my untouched Photobucket I found this http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/mustaqila...
      • mudcrow
        mornings
      • MartinRudat blinks.
      • MartinRudat
        heh. =)
      • mudcrow
        why put little fluffy ducklings in the toilet?
      • Muz
        It was more of an inside joke between me and someone else
      • But the idea of ducks in a toilet it humourous nonetheless
      • mudcrow
        hmm, not my idea of humour
      • juhae
        mmm, bad photoshop :p
      • mudcrow
        now if it was cats in the toilet, it would be funny :p
      • Muz
        It's toilet humour
      • Muz makes no apologies for the shit pun, he slept about 20 minutes at most in the night
      • juhae
        In a very literal sense, yes
      • Nyght
        I am so tempted to return a cd due to copy protection.
      • Muz
        Hey Beth
      • Nyght
        muz I've seen that picture before. :) hey.. how are you?
      • Muz
        Tired, very very tired
      • And the lady?
      • Nyght
        I'm doing pretty dang good, had a wonderful visit with my mom when she was here!
      • Muz
        Ooh, glad to hear things are well on your end of things :)
      • Nyght
        when are you going to be able to get some sleep?
      • Muz
        Tonight I think
      • Unless the glossy look of OS X lures me into a night of awakedness again
      • That or I find other fun things on my server at home
      • Nyght
        I hope so, I hate it when I jus can't sleep
      • Muz
        That's what it was like last night, so I arsed about on my laptop
      • Did I ever mention I have a burning hatred for the London Transport system?
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      • Nyght
        No you didn't.. why is that?
      • Muz
        Yesterday I was late in thanks to the Northern line being arsed up with some fire up near Kings Cross, and a broken train at London Bridge
      • Today, I was late in by 2 hours! :|
      • The central line was suspended, bus services were overwhelmed and slow, other lines were packed and flaky too
      • Nyght
        Geez, that's insane.. sounds like when our bus workers went on strike
      • Muz
        Oh god, public transsport workers going on strike
      • Muz curls up into a ball and weeps
      • MartinRudat tries to remember if the public transport here's gone on strike when he's wanted to use it...
      • Nyght
        Tahnkfully I didn't have reason to use it, and it's not much use for me being outside of the metro denver area, however, it was pretty bad
      • mudcrow crys about Bollywood soundtracks
      • what mudcrow?
      • mudcrow
        there are such a mess and have such inconsistancy on who is credited as artist
      • there=they
      • Nyght
        I got it. :) well, they are supposedly supposed to be credited to the soundtrack style guide and composer... but, yeah, I wouldn't want to deal with that mess. I'm sure anything you chose to do would be an improvement.
      • mudcrow
        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0292490/soundtrack Dil Chahta Hai, although the whole soundtrack was composed by Shankar Mahadevan, Ehsaan Noorani & Loy Mendonsa. We have to credit it to the person(s) who did the vocals. which then gets stuffed up as the only credit I can find for Akash's theme is the composer.
      • Nyght
        Why do you say you have to credit it to the person(s) that did the vocals?
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      • mudcrow
        because no-one would agree with crediting these soundtracks the same as classical with the composers credited as track artists
      • inhouseuk
        mudcrow: thanks for adding/correcting that release date
      • mudcrow
        thanks for spotting it was bogus :)
      • Nyght
        mudcrow, currently they are all grouped as soundtrack, which goes by composer.
      • Even if I don't agree personally... I have yet to figure out all of the varied "types" of soundtracks.
      • In this instance, any clearing up I imagine would be appreciated.
      • inhouseuk
        mudcrow: we all get caught by that one :)
      • Nyght
        But... as soon as I have a breath to breath edgewise that I can think. :) I'll be submitting a request for all the varied different soundtrack types and try to get the soundtrack style changed to reflect what's appropriate for the different types.
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      • Freso
        Okay, I need to know some policy stuff.
      • What's the policy on those?
      • The track is, as I have noted, in fact the entire album of the same name, but the track, in one (long) piece, isn't on any records per se.
      • Nyght
        Freso, do you have a link to the album?
      • This looks very similar to this situation... (link coming)
      • Freso
      • Nyght
        No, the original album, Amazon, or, download site, or...?
      • juhae
        So is that just a track somebody put together from the album tracks
      • Nyght
      • Freso
        juhae: Yes. But I'd imagine they weren't the only one to do it. And it'll no doubt pop up again.
      • Nyght
        There's a lot of reading, sorry about that.
      • Freso
        Nyght: Eh. I have it around here somewhere? :)
      • mudcrow
        if its been released as an album, it cant be a NAT.
      • Freso
        mudcrow: That's where my dilemma is. But, what then? Make a new album with just the one track?
      • Nyght
        Will try to locate it quickly then Freso
      • Freso
        Nyght: Will, or well?
      • mudcrow
        not if it was never released as one whole track
      • Nyght
        I will try and locate it. (Sorry)
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      • is that it?
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      • Freso
        Nice.
      • The lyrics for Verdens længste rap: http://www.hustlers.dk/plader/verdenslaengste.htm
      • (The World's longest rap)
      • Nyght
        But it wasn't designed to be all together as one music file, or more to the point, it's a "gapless" music cd and therefore someone joined it into one long mp3/audio file?
      • Freso
        Nyght: Actually, yes, it was designed to be both.
      • Nyght
        I personally think you're going to have a hard time on this one. It wasn't released as a factory disc, and it wasn't released for download anywhere like this.
      • Freso
        Under the "VERDENS LÆNGSTE RAP" heading.
      • Nyght
        Uh, I would love to read it... but, I'm linguistically challenged. :D
      • You could put that link there as your "argument" to allow it, however I didn't find any "proof" of the singular non breaking track at all.
      • Freso
        But never the less, it was meant to be listenable both one at a time and in one go.
      • Nyght
        I don't believe there's a true way to handle that in the guidelines... I've heard voice of not allowing it, but I imagine that is a case by case standing.
      • Freso nods
      • Freso
        I should bring it up on the ml?
      • Nyght
        That might be a good idea. You may end up getting a lot more votes than normal on the moderation, but, it's certainly a grey area.
      • I probably wont respond because I've said what I know here... and I really don't have much to offer in the discussion truly.
      • inhouseuk takes his father to lunch - back later
      • mudcrow
        no different to a live vinyl album IMO, it maybe one long audio file, but it is made up of seperate tracks, and should be entered as such
      • Nyght
        see you after your lunch ;) Enjoy!
      • mudcrow: I can certainly see your point there. Though, I think Enigma's first album is a better similarity, because it was a "gapless" release, but it's still multiple tracks.
      • all the live vinyl I've ever heard (or, any vinyl) that has the track separations have a notable gap to them...
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      • Freso
        mudcrow: This is more akin to an audio book than it is to any music recording.
      • mudcrow: Only, without the "breaks" normally found in audio books.
      • juhae
        But it's still a homebrew non-stop mix, right?
      • mudcrow
        but it isnt one track, it has 11 titles or subtitles
      • even Yes Sir I Will by Crass is listed with 7 tracks and thats one song
      • mudcrow wonders if Kay Kay's sortname would be Kay Kay or Kay, Kay
      • MartinRudat
        "Kay Kay" is a person? I'd say "Kay, Kay", then.
      • Muz
        Kay, Kay Kay?
      • mudcrow
      • MartinRudat
        Muz: heh. =)
      • mudcrow
        :)
      • Nyght
        You find the most interesting cases mudcrow
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      • nikki`
        yarr
      • MartinRudat
        G'day nikki.
      • mudcrow
        hi Nikki
      • nikki`
        hi hi
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        catping