15:27 PM
flamingcow
yeargh
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getalbumbyid returns the album artist id but not the album artist name?
15:28 PM
luks
it doesn't?
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15:30 PM
maybe the depth is set too low?
15:30 PM
it returns artist elements only with depth 4+, for albums
15:30 PM
flamingcow
well, there's no entry in queries.h for it
15:30 PM
lemme try higher depth
15:31 PM
luks
i'm pretty sure there is
15:32 PM
use depth 4, MBQ_GetAlbumById and then MBE_AlbumGetAlbumArtistName
15:33 PM
flamingcow
MBE_AlbumGetAlbumArtistName undefined here
15:33 PM
luks
which version of libmb?
15:34 PM
it was added in 2.1.3, i think
15:34 PM
flamingcow
2.1.2-2ubuntu3
15:34 PM
heh, lovely!
15:34 PM
luks
15:35 PM
all the queries are just strings
15:35 PM
flamingcow
yeah
15:35 PM
i'm still not seeing the artist name in the returned rdf :/
15:36 PM
inhouseuk
what depth are you now using?
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flamingcow
heh, but your string works
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so i'll shut up
15:37 PM
luks
flamingcow: there are not inside the mm:Album element
15:38 PM
only the ID is there, the data are below
15:38 PM
flamingcow
gotcha
15:38 PM
so, right now i have code that does one MBQ_GetAlbumById for ASIN and album artist + id
15:39 PM
then does one MBQ_QuickTrackInfoFromTrackId per track
15:39 PM
inhouseuk thinks RDF is short for "Really Does Frustrate" :)
15:39 PM
for artist id/name, track name, releases
15:39 PM
should i be able to get all that info from MBQ_GetAlbumById with a high enough depth?
15:40 PM
luks
yes
15:40 PM
with 4 you will get all tracks + track artists
15:41 PM
flamingcow
and...releases?
15:41 PM
luks
releases for each track?
15:42 PM
flamingcow
oh, duh
15:42 PM
*brain turns on*
15:42 PM
thanks :)
15:49 PM
deadchip
* inhouseuk thinks RDF is short for "Really Does Frustrate" :) <-- haha
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16:05 PM
inhouseuk
luks: is there a way of merging tickets on trac?
16:05 PM
luks
nope
16:05 PM
inhouseuk
bleh!
16:05 PM
luks
just close one of them and add links to both
16:06 PM
inhouseuk
I was thinking the wikiprefix, the shortening of annotations and the link type enhancements could be dealt with all on the same enhancement ticket
16:07 PM
they are all directly related to the same code
16:07 PM
Aankhen`` pokes catmo.
16:08 PM
luks
well, i *personally* think the wikiprefix one is wontfix
16:08 PM
wiki formatting in annotations is not supposed to be html
16:08 PM
and it should primary interact with the main wiki
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16:09 PM
nikki_
it was unexpected behaviour for me
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
yeah, but people don't see it as being a wiki. They see the wiki formating as a method of adding links and text layout
16:09 PM
nikki_
I wouldn't expect /relative/link.html to go to the wiki
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16:09 PM
inhouseuk nods
16:09 PM
luks
but it's not html!
16:09 PM
i would expect it in html
16:09 PM
inhouseuk
it's not a wiki either
16:09 PM
nikki_
it *generates* html :P
16:10 PM
keschte
neither are the rest of the text inputs like edit notes
16:10 PM
so, interwiki linking is the best possible way to do that
16:10 PM
luks
i think the prefix should stay as is
16:10 PM
keschte
it saves even a couple of chars and removes the need for square brackets.
16:10 PM
nikki_
er...
16:11 PM
but these are links I did with square brackets...
16:12 PM
keschte
so, its currently not handled in the code... check the annotation.pm module if you don't believe us
16:12 PM
luks
nikki_: "I wouldn't expect /relative/link.html to go to the wiki" <- i can use the same argument :)
16:13 PM
16:13 PM
inhouseuk
the annotations are just shown as text boxes, users don't know they have wiki formating generating the links when displaying them
16:13 PM
nikki_
why would you expect /relative/link.html to go to wiki.musicbrainz/relative/link.html?
16:13 PM
+.org
16:13 PM
luks
why would you expect relative links work?
16:14 PM
nikki_
because I didn't expect it to make absolute links
16:14 PM
I just expected it to turn the [/something blah] into <a href="/something">blah</a>
16:14 PM
luks
because you think of it as html
16:14 PM
which it isn't
16:15 PM
nikki_
it's not a wiki either
16:15 PM
inhouseuk
the wiki formating in notes/annotations is for formating functionality, it is not a wiki
16:15 PM
luks
you can use wither absolute url or wiki name
16:15 PM
either
16:16 PM
inhouseuk
why would you want to use an absolute url when the context changes? wiki pages are always going to be on the wiki. artist and release links are on the 'local' mirror/server
16:16 PM
nikki_
I just find it hard to see how the annotations and the wiki are linked, other than the annotations use a wiki syntax similar to but not the same as the wiki
16:17 PM
inhouseuk
yes, it uses wiki formating for enhancement, but it is not a wiki
16:17 PM
it could have just as easily used embedded html to do the same thing
16:18 PM
nikki_
and other than those "this is a special purpose artist" type links, I don't really recall seeing links to the wiki
16:22 PM
inhouseuk can see this is another ticket that will be discussed about for months without resolution
16:23 PM
inhouseuk
so much time is wasted on discussing things that can be fixed in seconds
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16:26 PM
it doesn't say annotations are now integrated into the wiki
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catmo
Aankhen`` ?
16:32 PM
Aankhen``
catmo: Hi.
16:33 PM
catmo
heey Aankhen
16:33 PM
what you wanted?
16:33 PM
Aankhen``
catmo: I was wondering how come you changed the entry for Anuradha Paudwal to Devanagari script?
16:33 PM
deadchip
is it possible that there is no PUID for a fingerprint?
16:33 PM
i mean, even without metadata
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catmo
eeeerrh because it is?
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Aankhen``
catmo: Wha?
16:34 PM
catmo
what exactly do you mean now?
16:34 PM
like the album?
16:34 PM
Aankhen``
The artist name.
16:34 PM
catmo
oh?
16:34 PM
shoudn't it be in her proper script?
16:34 PM
Aankhen``
I'm not sure, but I think she's a South Indian singer.
16:35 PM
catmo
its in Devanagari script on the release
16:35 PM
hmm!
16:35 PM
Aankhen``
Which would make her native language Tamil, Telegu, Malayalam, or some such thing.
16:35 PM
catmo
that's right..
16:36 PM
I was just going t ohead into the shower.. can I ask you to research this thing?
16:36 PM
Aankhen``
I've been trying to find out, but there doesn't seem to be much info about her on the 'Net.
16:36 PM
Sure thing.
16:36 PM
catmo
ooh i see
16:36 PM
thank you
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16:38 PM
Aankhen``
I believe so.
16:38 PM
I think there was something about it in one of the pages I found.
16:38 PM
catmo
can you gather your notes the and put it in a query for me?
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links and so forth
16:38 PM
Aankhen``
Okey dokey.
16:38 PM
catmo
I need to shower
16:38 PM
thank you!
16:39 PM
Aankhen``
Have fun. :-)
16:39 PM
catmo
:D
16:39 PM
nikki_
I've found links saying oriya, marathi, hindi and bengali already
16:40 PM
I guess we'd be correct if we say "it has squiggles. we're not sure *which* squiggles but they're definitely squiggles."
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Aankhen``
LOL.
16:43 PM
nikki_: Right on!
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16:55 PM
deadchip
erm
16:55 PM
<track-list offset="8"/>
16:55 PM
the offset starts at zero?
16:55 PM
because thet track is track 9 (starting count from 1) on the disc
16:55 PM
err
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that*
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Shepard
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luks
deadchip: "is it possible that there is no PUID for a fingerprint?" yes, it is possible
17:02 PM
and quite often, especially for new tracks
17:03 PM
nikki_
Shepard: I never do
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I usually just put a line in the annotation
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