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that's not using picard

which is... the fingerprints?

Yes.

technically no, but let's say yes

:)

in that case, the quoted sentence is very misleading

it sounds like picard is an alternative to the web interface that also tags files

anyway

i take it then, that there's no way to 'grab' info from other sources when inputting to mb, in the way that, for isntance, helium grabs info from amazon.com ?

the only automatic option is importing from freedb

but you can use the track listing parser

which makes it a little bit easier

how's that work? (a link is fine)

"you need to open Pandora's box first. "

lol i thought that meant the music reccomendation site

heh

and i thought it meant a *dialogue* box, lol

"Pandora's Dialogue Box"

so this parser just does title, number, time, and track artist?

yes

grumble grumble whine

I wish peoplw wouldnt add crap that gives me a headache trying to figure out what it is

Ek Baat Kahoon 11 bloody soundtracks have a song called Ek Baat Kahoon - bastards

damn...even I didn't know we even had a track parser...

I never bothered to click any of the plusses, I always added to info manually or copy+past each title from a tracklisting...

that shows you that the page isn't very intuitive

I found it

after someone told me it was there

aye, you have to know that the function exists

i spent quite some time looking for it recently, even though I had used it before.

I parse everything now. much better than importing crap from freedb and fixing it

where is the freedb import hidden anyway?

I never use that one either

in the menu at the top of the screen, and when you click add release and in the menu on every artist page

at the top of the Edter Release page?

Enter

I did look for it but again didn't bother to use the plusses to expand the options, is it hidden in there as well?

top menu of every page - Edit freedb import. Also when you click add release there's an option to import then and on every artist page under their name is "Import release "

hmmm

where do you get your tracklists, google?

amazon, allmusic, discogs, whatever you like

so basically yes, google

;-)

discogs, flex, kill by death, scumville, indiafm, desimusic. anywhere except amazon or freedb

why not amazon or freedb?

oh, i still prefer freedb with little fixes in most cases.

because they are both full of errors

especially if i'm just copying from a physical jewel case :)

but if you can't find a better source it's always an option but you'll have to go through every title to double check

most of the punk stuff I enter is vinyl, so it shouldnt be in freedb anyway

mudcrow know any good vinyl databases?

discogs

i often have cd rips and don't know where side b begins :p

flex for USA punk

although that isnt a database

musicbrainz of course too

how does it store/show side info?

nope but a lot of artists have links to discographys that do show that info

ok, i'm trying to choose a local music db to use, i'm looking for the following criteria:

1. grabs info from mb 2. fetches album art from various sources 3. supports a WIDE array of id3 tags 4. fast!

any suggestions?

The only suggestion I can make would be to create your own program

well, what comes closest to what i've described?

there isn't a combination of it all

i gave up on the writing to mb from the program factor

mp3tag comes close dealing with point 1, 3 and 4

foobar comes close with 3 and 4

itnues comes close with 2 -various

itunes

foobar had trouble reading some of my tags, why i stopped using it

i think i saw some foobar album grabbing plugin

but note that it's a nightmare if it comes to writing tags

but nothing for mb grabbing

(iTunes)

but foobar's DB functionality seems limited, unless i'm missing something

foobar can using inhouseuk's mb-cddb gateway

can what?

ohh

:-)

like an 'interface'

but i suppose you can only use the freedb/cddb fields, eh?

yeah, my reason for criteria 3 is that i plan on using weird tag fields, including many custom fields

foobar can do that

it just doesn't support images

yeah, but you can't store the images in the files using foobar, only reading

by using a plugin

hmm

anyway, I'm off again

thanks again

how does picard fare on factors 1-4, other than the fact that it's not a db :p

for the current picard: 1. yes, 2-4. no

1 & 3 are the most important for me

followed by 4

so i guess mp3tag is starting to look good

anything that i should compare to mp3tag?

are there any mb database people in here? i need to ask about the trackwords table

i'll take that as a no...

Dataja.

Moosen!

if a release cover displayes 'Rant n' Rave' as the title, should this be left alown or corrected to 'Rant 'n Rave'

?

the official website uses the latter as well

Correct it, I guess.

ok

chancey: the trackwords table is only used by the 'old non-lucene' search http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/browser/mb_server/t...

inhouseuk: so what is the point of the table, what valuable data does it hold?

it's used as a sort of index for the searching

the reason i am asking is, a awhile ago i wrote a mysql port for the musicbrainz_db. But trackswords has no key, so its slowing down the replications hisiously

no the data isn't valuable. You don't need to maintain it via replication unless you are using the seach

OK good

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I didn't notice it was Friday the 13th.

I just kept thinking "payday!"

still no luck. :-(