22:32 PM
BrianFreud
I've had a few bands I've caught doing that too
22:32 PM
FauxFaux
BrianFreud: I completely fail at whatever UPC is, where does it appear on the site? :)
22:32 PM
Jugdish
fauxfaux: since you seem to be so quick at this ;) how about a search for 13-digit barcodes that begin with "999"?
22:32 PM
BrianFreud
barcode
22:32 PM
(Interscope Records 602498611265) <---
22:33 PM
very easy to quickly find the missing ASIN, if there is one, if you have a ECC-13/UPC to find it with
22:33 PM
!upc 602498611265
22:33 PM
YAUB
BrianFreud: ASIN: B0000DZDYN; UPC: 602498611265; Country: U.S. and Canada; Label: Interscope Records; Year: 2003; Title: The Singles 1992-2003; Artists: No Doubt
22:33 PM
Jugdish
brianfreud: i predict such reports will be HUGE
22:33 PM
FauxFaux
Jugdish: Won't be bigger than the REPORT OF DOOM. :p
22:34 PM
BrianFreud
lol
22:34 PM
Jugdish
releases with ASINs but no barcodes? that'll be like 70% of the db :P
22:34 PM
drsaunde
how sure are we of the accuracy of UPC from Yaub?
22:34 PM
BrianFreud
it's direct from amazon
22:34 PM
Jugdish
i always google the upc given by YAUB just to double-check
22:34 PM
BrianFreud
I have yet, in a few 100 checks, to find a bad asin-upc linkage
22:34 PM
drsaunde
yeah...but without more info they may be from completely diff versions
22:34 PM
BrianFreud
no, that's the type I was looking for
22:35 PM
cross-checking at B&N or wherever
22:35 PM
Jugdish
yeah
22:35 PM
BrianFreud
always comes up the right version
22:35 PM
FauxFaux
PgAdmin sucks asss.
22:35 PM
BrianFreud
question for you guys...
22:35 PM
drsaunde
okay...could i maybe ask when entering a yaub UPC (as opposed to one from an actual copy or photo of such)...to include YAUB on the edit note
22:36 PM
BrianFreud
how much do you trust non-.fr Amazon dates for non-imports?
22:36 PM
drsaunde: sure, if not cross verified
22:36 PM
most ppl have no idea what YAUB is, so they get confused
22:36 PM
drsaunde
ty....won't be much effort..but just in case something is wrong or added to the wrong version it'll be easier to determine
22:36 PM
BrianFreud
sure
22:37 PM
FauxFaux
22:37 PM
BrianFreud
umm, I get 5 listings now
22:37 PM
Jugdish
fauxfaux: thanks! actually, it turns out a report of 13-digit barcodes beginning in just "99" would be more accurate :P
22:37 PM
FauxFaux
Jugdish: Fixed. :p
22:37 PM
Jugdish
quick!
22:38 PM
and no difference :P
22:38 PM
FauxFaux changes the heading so it doesn't confuse BrianFreud.
22:38 PM
LOL
22:38 PM
BrianFreud
ah
22:38 PM
Jugdish sees a barcode that he himself added
22:39 PM
99-upc = bogus?
22:39 PM
Jugdish
yeah
22:39 PM
22:39 PM
FauxFaux
Jugdish: There's only 5 starting with 99, regardless of length. :)
22:39 PM
BrianFreud
hmmm
22:39 PM
what about a report of releases with the "amazon bogus date" date?
22:39 PM
FauxFaux
How would that work? *looks at upc->asins while you explain*
22:39 PM
Jugdish
LOL good god, i am responsible for 3 of these bogus barcodes
22:40 PM
Jugdish fails at mb
22:40 PM
BrianFreud slaps Jugdish around a bit with a large trout
22:41 PM
BrianFreud
FauxFaux: Amazon assigns "1990-10-25" to any release they have no idea on release date for.
22:42 PM
FauxFaux
BrianFreud: Don't think that data is in mb, though, is it?
22:42 PM
BrianFreud
release events?
22:42 PM
FauxFaux
Oh, releases with that release event? YOu can do that search via the site. :)
22:42 PM
BrianFreud
you can?
22:43 PM
FauxFaux
Well, you can do it in the webservice, so I guess so. :p
22:43 PM
BrianFreud
lol
22:43 PM
drsaunde
the 1990-10-25 is the date amazon started...those are dates from releases from the site opening
22:43 PM
BrianFreud isn't aware of a way to search via the site for all releases with a given date
22:43 PM
FauxFaux
22:43 PM
BrianFreud
ah
22:43 PM
hmm, there's a few of those too
22:43 PM
FauxFaux
22:44 PM
Jugdish
brianfreud: do an advanced text search with "date:1990-10-25"
22:44 PM
BrianFreud
ah, ok, thanks :)
22:44 PM
Jugdish
not bad, only 6
22:45 PM
FauxFaux
My method for getting releases with upc but no asin appears to take aaages.
22:45 PM
BrianFreud
can't be worse than mine...
22:45 PM
load in picard, resave to "has upc no asin/music" or "has asin no upc/music"
22:45 PM
:p
22:46 PM
Jugdish
fauxfaux: i have a feeling because there will be 239845723987432 results
22:46 PM
FauxFaux
Cost: 660975571.65.
22:46 PM
That's bad, kay?
22:46 PM
Jugdish
heh
22:46 PM
FauxFaux
Jugdish: UPC but no asin, not the other way around. :)
22:46 PM
Jugdish
oh
22:46 PM
BrianFreud
yeah, that's the more useful one anyhow
22:47 PM
asin, no upc... so many bad asins from the old bot, I wouldn't trust it anyhow
22:48 PM
FauxFaux
SQL huts my head, you bastards.
22:49 PM
BrianFreud
BrianFreud is now known as KenneyIsDead
22:50 PM
KenneyIsDead
KenneyIsDead is now known as BrianFreud
22:50 PM
FauxFaux
Hah, yes, that's slightly faster.
22:51 PM
BrianFreud thinks FauxFaux just found the turbo button on his 286
22:51 PM
Jugdish
lol
22:51 PM
i remember those buttons
22:51 PM
FauxFaux
Heh, don't make me go buy a new machine. :P
22:51 PM
Jugdish
so stupid, it's like having a fast/slow switch
22:52 PM
FauxFaux
This one has a cost of 7k, that's slightly better.
22:52 PM
BrianFreud
ugh, I so need to rebuild mine
22:53 PM
it's so mangled, trying to keep it running, bits just slapped in til they break again
22:54 PM
I have one of those Abit board with the bad cap problems... mine's lasted much longer than most, but it's on its last legs
22:58 PM
FauxFaux
22:58 PM
(No, you don't deserve names)
22:59 PM
Jugdish
O_o
22:59 PM
FauxFaux
It takes a disgusting ammount of time to fetch the names in sql, for no apparent reason, maybe I'll do it manually. >.<
23:00 PM
There you go, even uglier. :P
23:01 PM
Jugdish
how about a:visited color?
23:02 PM
FauxFaux
There's no style-overrides, does your browser not have an a-visited colour by default?
23:02 PM
Jugdish
hmm, supposedly
23:03 PM
BrianFreud
lol
23:03 PM
thanks FauxFaux
23:03 PM
Jugdish
wonder if it's not registering because /show/?releaseid= redirects to mbid/XXXX-XXX-XXX.html
23:03 PM
FauxFaux
Works in ie/opera.
23:03 PM
And it doesn't redirect here. :)
23:03 PM
BrianFreud
and FF here
23:03 PM
Jugdish
well i just suck then
23:03 PM
Jugdish cries in the corner
23:04 PM
FauxFaux
Unlucky.
23:06 PM
BrianFreud joined the channel
23:07 PM
Jugdish
O_o
23:07 PM
23:08 PM
BrianFreud
well, there's one less ASIN missing :)
23:10 PM
FauxFaux
Refresh for album names, not sure how that helps, though. :)
23:10 PM
BrianFreud
trying to see why the xml won't validate
23:11 PM
FauxFaux
Hmm?
23:11 PM
BrianFreud
actually, it's maybe more useful with the barcodes
23:11 PM
FauxFaux
Can't have both, I'm afraid. :p
23:11 PM
BrianFreud
yeah
23:12 PM
FauxFaux
Barcodes, without the eyeburning.
23:12 PM
BrianFreud
trying to import into access, so it's manageable
23:12 PM
it's whining about non-compliant xml
23:12 PM
FauxFaux
Oh, it's nowhere near valid. Allow me to fix.
23:13 PM
BrianFreud
lol
23:13 PM
FauxFaux
Result:Failed validation, 0 error
23:13 PM
So, I dunno if that's better or not, but try it now. :)
23:13 PM
BrianFreud waits for faux to set the reports up as rss feeds
23:14 PM
BrianFreud
;)
23:14 PM
FauxFaux
Ugh, printing rss is a pain, y'know. What format do you want the stuff for access? Tsv?
23:14 PM
BrianFreud
nah
23:14 PM
actually, it's cool now
23:15 PM
friendlier xml than the mb service
23:15 PM
Access doesn't understand xml attribute values :(
23:15 PM
FauxFaux
23:16 PM
BrianFreud
oh, very nice :)
23:17 PM
MBChatLogger
I hate the evil empire
23:17 PM
BrianFreud
yeah, you get a sense of how microsoft doesn't talk internally when you try to use the "xml friendly" O2K3
23:17 PM
Excel supports attribute tags, access doesn't
23:17 PM
FauxFaux
Heh. I have 2007 installed here, I haven't even launched it.
23:18 PM
BrianFreud
so if you need them, you have to import into excel, then link the access db to the excel data
23:19 PM
FauxFaux
Hah, that file is 400k as an access db.
23:20 PM
BrianFreud
lol
23:20 PM
I'm refusing to install 2007
23:21 PM
the whole idea of "make it simple - get rid of all the menus" seems idiotic to me
23:21 PM
FauxFaux
It's apparently very good, I'm sure I'll find out if I ever use an office product. :)
23:22 PM
BrianFreud
oh, all the MS reps who tried to pitch me on it raved about it
23:22 PM
but every client who tried switching to it, they hated it
23:22 PM
FauxFaux
Excuse me if I don't trust your clients. :)
23:22 PM
BrianFreud
all used the retro-active licensing clause and had me order then O2003 install cds
23:24 PM
I guess I'm more a fan of menus that stay put... the idea of the menu trying to guess what options I want, I just want the button to be where it should be, not have to hunt for it :P
23:25 PM
FauxFaux
My first Vista install, I re-enabled the menus in explorer immediately, I haven't done it yet on this one, and I only just noticed, been using it extensively for a week.
23:25 PM
BrianFreud
yeah... that's the problem in office 2007