#musicbrainz

nikki: ahh yes, now I remember. Writing it down now. Thank you

I should've prodded people earlier to take notes.

actually, nikki, what if you only had have and want, but could tag any release

then you could have the same items in multiple lists...

I've got a minicab for 4am :-(

well, I'm not sure exactly how he's planning to implement it, maybe it would be possible to add things to multiple lists anyway

MBChatLogger: off

is not logging

is logging

I could think of even more lists I could make, like "stuff my mum has", "stuff my nan has"... I remember teleguise asking me about a release I added at one point and I was like "I don't remember adding this... where the hell did it come from?"

since I archive everything due to lack of space, would be nice to tag "DVD backup 1", "DVD backup 2", etc, so I know what disc anything is on

then I could have just looked at the list and said "ah, I added that from my mum's collection"

then trotted off to my mum's to find out the answer ;)

BrianFreud: would that be like a individual note for each release?

what would be cool, someday, when we have community editing tags on MB - be able to pull up a list of anything I have in the db as "I have" that also has a "needs fixing" tag... if I have it, I might have a better chance at figuring out what the needed fix is

niklas: I was thinking a per track tag, since I often end up spreading releases across backup DVDs

ah okay

nikki: found that morning musume in hawaii dvd on this list, with a probably bogus catalog # :(, http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~nagaame/dvd/dvd_ma.htm

I only archive if I have been able to generate and submit a puid - it's actually rather rare that I'll have an entire release generate puids all at once, since some seem to require multiple analyses before generating a puid

(I have 5000-6000 files currently waiting for puids to be generated)

warp: hmm, thanks, I'm suspicious of it too

nikki: some kind of bootleg perhaps?

no, it's a fanclub release

oh yes.

how annoying.

I don't even buy the DVDs either, so it's not like I'll acquire it any time soon >_<

meh

thanks though :D

yeah, i'll give up now :)

Anyone awake here who would care to help me with the French capitalization at http://musicbrainz.org/release/afd3f7dd-28b0-46... perhaps?

"This message is too big to fit in a single mail body, please see the attachment"?

Has he started md5 hashing his emails?

lol

sorry brian :p

how come that when I looked up a song in Picard it suggests that it is a totally different song? Is this because someone have tagged it incorrectly?

Looked up with PUIDs? Probably.

Pweedfail

FauxFaux: I suppose so. Used the lookup button in Picard

or indeed some of those theoratical possible PUID collisions. has anybody done the math on how likely something like this is?

niklas: Lookup does it on the current tags (I believe), scan does it on the PUIDs.

niklas: what track did it return?

If you go tot he track page, you could find the PUIDs attached, and what tracks are attached to that puid iirc

I believe this has happened to me before, some years ago when I tried using iEatBrainz

no puids used during "lookup", just the tag search AFAIK

FauxFaux: oh. so scan is much more reliable then?

Depends. For stuff I have, which is mostly tagged right, lookup is better. :)

Muzzz: returned P.O.D. - Intro from an album called The Warriors Intro

the song I looked up is also named intro

ah. scan is for me then ;)

:)

what is the pros of using lookup? just that it is faster?

It's more likely to work (every trakc in musicbrainz has a name, not all of them have a puid), etc.

niklas: the lookup uses the "tag lookup" you can see on http://musicbrainz.org/search.html

ahh

I see. thank you!

Hmm. I'm going to remove one of the duplicate performer ARs here: http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/relationshi... Does it matter which one I remove? Is there any reason to prefer one over the other? (notice that the two "Remove" URLs are different)

(the duplication is the result of a release merge)

pick one

eenie meenie miney mo...

the links only contain the IDs of the two different relationships

My instinct is to keep the one with the lower ID (older), but I bet it doesn't actually matter

what's up with the url editing? I can't fix an amazon ASIN to non-import

try changing http://musicbrainz.org/edit/url/edit.html?urlid... to http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000A3H6ZE

foo!

http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/gallery/mb/cattongue.jpg <-- awesome

XD

foolip: maybe just add the .jp as a new ASIN and it might replace the old one? (rather than editing the URL)

it would just have two ASINs that way wouldn't it?

I'm not sure, but I think so

I dunno :) try it and see

catcatcat

asinfail

I think this is a bug

warp!

hi!

There's all kinds of weirdness with the ASINs

CatCat: good to see you got home safely :)

øpo istill has the crustacrasian card :o

wash can happen tomorow

hi freso

Hey

classical editors: what say you of decreasing the release title verbosity of the last items here: http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?q...

:O

... and stretching/warming down.

aah

Error: 500 read timeout

loi

xlotlu: nevar! :)

im in a bed soon now

natta!

nn mo

natta CatCat

everyone knows how to actually say that now :3

mikemorr: most of them don't include catalogue numbers, neither keys..

Godnat, KatKat. =)

xlotlu: oh then they need to be MORE verbose! :)

mikemorr: i was offering to make the consistent

mikemorr: but if you want them consistent *and* verbose, then you just offered yourself for it :)

Yeah, I would say, the minimum to identify the works on the disc should be sufficient

but I'm waiting for Works and Magic Thing aka NGS to fix everything

i set the mb-style mails to digest, mark as read on receive, and took a couple of months break from MB when that crazyness started :)

BrianFreud: you just missed this: what say you of decreasing the release title verbosity of the last items here: http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?q...

When WorkLists fix everything, the release title should probably be close to what is printed on the release; different recordings of the same work won't need to be titled consistently. Those who want consistent release titles (this includes me) can hopefully get them built from the WorkLists.

foolip: you can't edit urls into one that already exists btw

that's usually the problem

it was the problem

ah

so, is there a bug report filed for that?

yes

xlotlu: 1 sec while it loads

mikemorr: WorkLists are closer to reality, or still a pretty utopian dream?

I wish I knew

:)

yeah, it's a 40 cd-box, and that search shows them all

and they're rather inconsistent

OK then consistency is good but I don't know whether it should be more or less verbose

foolip: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3172 <- here

ok, good

xlotlu: I would stick with consistency, though in release titles like that I would probably chop out all but the K6 number, saving the K1/2/3/3a for the tracks

I've never really been a fan of how such classical titles are done, though I cannot think of a cleaner way to do them

so, reduce the 10-or-so extra-verbose ones, and make the rest more verbose :)

the shorter ones work for me

though I don't like disc 12 - there's at least three Requiems; it's assumed that one is K. 626, but it doesn't have to be

Concerto for Flute No. 1 in G major, K. 285c/313: III. Rondo. Tempo di menuetto

ugh sorry for that

obviously... <p>'s inside the <td>'s .. can't blame firefox or konversation for that :)

yep, movement 3 of 285d is typo'd

you fixing, or shall I?