#musicbrainz

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      • luks
        I fully understand the reasons, but I just don't agree that wikipedia should be used that way
      • CatCat
        though i also irritate myself with that the (singer) or /band( addtags arent added until there is *found* a duplicate with the same name, and some just have the name
      • uh.. how to say. thier naming sceme doesnt have a guideline
      • :)
      • luks
        it does
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      • enjayhch
        I meant more like {{PerformsAs|Santogold}}
      • or I meant more like {{AlsoKnownAsRedirect|Santogold}}
      • luks
        that would very interesting from dbpedia point of view, I guess
      • CatCat
        as far as i've experienced, when it comes to music and bands. they only tag on an identifier in the name like _(singer) only if it isn't unique
      • enjayhch
        yes
      • CatCat
        and additional identifiers, (eg 60's band), (rumba dancer) only if those arent unique again
      • enjayhch
        which results in renaming as soon as someone else with that name comes along
      • CatCat
        exactly. it keeps beign more and more redirects
      • enjayhch
        U2_(band) moved to U2 recently
      • CatCat
        yes
      • it breaks links
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      • luks
        it doesn't actually, because they add redirects
      • CatCat
        measn we have to run aroudn and fix them, keep chekking them as s's to make sure hey arent broke
      • yes
      • enjayhch
        unless it turns into a disambiguation page
      • CatCat
        in wich case buh
      • becasue what then in cases like John Willimas
      • williams
      • where x person maybe clicks the link to learn *more* about some J.W ihe doesnt know about, but then gets disambig. page and thne he is as far as he started
      • the thing about disambiguation pages on wikia, is, that if you have *no clue* wich one it is you're after. they are very ambiguous :)
      • wich is, i thoguht the reason we link to it in the first place, to provide direct links to identify and additional inforamtino on x artist
      • if i see an artist with a dodgy name, i click it, but if it has wikipedia links and maybe a discogs page. i understand this isnt something thats broken
      • same for releases with weird titles or names
      • +track
      • and labels, etc
      • enjayhch
        well I am giving up on thinking about this and going home
      • have a good weekend!
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      • milosz
        some velvet underground fans around?
      • LotR guesses having downloaded a lou reed discography and never really listening to the music doesn't count :)
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      • MGdesigner
        Hi guys. I translated my new song intro into English(with lyrics).
      • Welcome listening ^^
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      • milosz
        LotR, heh, no, i have some obscure recordings and wanted to know if that's an actual release or something
      • milosz goes hunting it down on the net
      • "Please note that this is an unusual recording. The tape machine used to record this show was placed inside Lou Reed’s guitar amp; hence the title. As such, Lou’s guitar is basically all that you can hear; the other instruments and the vocals are difficult to hear. This is a very interesting document of the band, but just be aware that it’s not a typical live recording."
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      • CatCat
        aww MGdesigner needs to hang out for longer so i can tell him tat i liked the sad hacker song :(
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      • aCiD2
        luks: are we using test.mb for anything at the moment?
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      • ruaok checks in from a coffee shop in portland
      • or ruaok :)
      • and how's portland going?
      • ruaok
        I'm just trying to kill two hours and finish my blogging duties.
      • good. the conference was great.
      • aCiD2
        I read your entry on open-source project problems, was a good read
      • ruaok
        yay!
      • aCiD2
        :-)
      • ruaok
        there is another one coming soon.
      • aCiD2
        neato
      • ruaok
        complete with... ooops. MB needs to do this better.
      • aCiD2
        I should subscribe
      • <-- lazy
      • ruaok
        and that.
      • I'm not a regular radar blogger. only for conferences.
      • aCiD2
        yea, thought so
      • ruaok
        my favorite quote from the conf: "M$ is irrelevant. We're more worried about Apple"
      • wow. what a statement and change of landscape.
      • aCiD2
        I find that quite relevant though...
      • I've gone off Apple
      • ruaok, hate to be a bummer, but mind having a quick read of an email before I shoot it off to the users list (about testing my branch)
      • ruaok
        shoot.
      • aCiD2
      • I wanted to use test.mb.org, but I don't know if it's in use atm
      • ruaok
        I think luks has a branch running there, but this seems quite useful and more in-the-moment.
      • if you'd like I can make the box available to you.
      • and that post looks good.
      • though I worry about your english sometimes.
      • aCiD2
        i'm a coder :P
      • ruaok
        au contraire!
      • aCiD2
        and starting to believe that english are not my main language please
      • ruaok
        your english is waaay too good to be a coder.
      • aCiD2
        oh
      • rofl
      • danke :)
      • ruaok
        must mean your code is crap. :)
      • :-)
      • aCiD2
        ahahaa
      • gee thanks :P
      • ruaok
        I've seen so much crappy writing on the net, that when I see real english it pops out at me.
      • ruaok kids about his coding skills
      • aCiD2
        :P
      • the net has too much garbage
      • ruaok
        I was gushing about the current crop of SoC students to the Google SoC Team.
      • aCiD2
        I moan at my sister about adding to that collection
      • yup?
      • oh, you had that google dinner yet btw?
      • ruaok
        yeah, that was yesterday.
      • aCiD2
        cool
      • ruaok
        they're jazzed that we're into it this year.
      • aCiD2
        :-)
      • ruaok
        around my table sat: Greg Kroa-hartman (linux kernel hacker), Monty from MySQL, a Google guy, an Oreilly Intern, a metaweb guy and brad fitzpatrick of memcached/LJ/perlbal fame.
      • ruaok didn't know that linux was on all motoroal phones
      • aCiD2
        nice! i'd love to be able to sit at one of those tables :P
      • ruaok
        *motorola
      • stick with open source and you very well might.
      • aCiD2
        one day maybe, heh
      • i'm glad you forced me to apply for SoC, enjoying open source a lot
      • ruaok
        so, test.mb.org.wanna?
      • aCiD2
        sure, but do you want me to do the setup? probs better to leave that to luks
      • but it would be more stable than my server, I'm sure
      • ruaok
        why shouldn't you do the setup?
      • the distro there is a bit old, but nothing you can't handle
      • aCiD2
        cool, suppose I can give it a shot then
      • ruaok
        just leave luks' branch alone and setup a new one.
      • aCiD2
        it's just grabbing some new perl modules really
      • ruaok
        er, account
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      • aCiD2
        hehe
      • also, my branch doesn't run through apache, I'm not sure if I should look into that (or fastcgi) first
      • ruaok
        acid2 login name?
      • aCiD2
        acid2 will be fine
      • atm I've just been using the internal server that ships with Catalyst, it can be set to fork on request, so it should be able to handle load as a test server
      • ruaok
        k
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