#musicbrainz

luks: ping

does anyone know if python has a function like perl's tr///?

nikki: "string".translate() ?

blah... perl's is less work :P

\o/ perl

haha

oh, reading it now it does seem like a bunch of hassle.

outsidecontext: pong

luks: hey, still awake :)

luks: i noticed you have uploaded the translations to launchpad

watching a movie actually

yes

but ther should be new strings. something is wrong

the template was not uploaded yet, as far as I can see

ah, i thought it was because all the "newly translated in launchpad" marks disappeared

hm, but it's not in the queue. weird

afaik the translation weren't updated the last time, either. i supposed it was because of the xgettext bug in update.py

ah, not, it's approved but not imported yet

I think the new translations will be added only after importing the .pot file

ok, looks good.

i'm never sure what launchpad is about to do :)

there is also http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/4193

me neither, especially the translations stuff

I've seen it

another launchpad weirdness

the guy is talking about different types of uploads, but I don't see any options how to do that

https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/278955 I mean

haha

anyway, not that important :)

I'll go to bed soon. have a nice evening

good night

or rather night

I hate that stupid unicode decode error python always gives me :( I never remember what to do to make it happy

Generate locales? Change you session/shell/etc.'s LC_ALL / locale?

no

python doesn't care about locales

Fail.

I can run it from a utf-8 locale but it won't print utf-8 unless I tell it to in the right way

import unicode something or other ain't it?

no idea

would probably be faster ¬_¬

os.system("foo.pl")

nikki: atleast that will be more-or-less fixed in python 3.0

I still don't see how it is broken

MYTH.

it's not obvious to me why it's not working

I told it the encoding of the file and told it to encode it when I print, but it still doesn't work

luks: it's annoying to have to be so explicit about string/unicode conversion. having everything as unicode by default will make using python a lot easier IMHO.

can you pastebin the codee and the error?

warp: but unicode is not easy, for example there are 3 different run-time encodings used for different things on windows

warp: Everything as code points, or as glyphs? ¬_¬

luks: i know it's not. you can save a file on osx and it won't exist afterwards because osx decided to normalize the unicode to non-combined characters or whatever.

FauxFaux: the python unicode type.

What does it present to the programmer?

FauxFaux: codepoints

FauxFaux: unicode characters :)

ok

Mmm.

nikki: maketrans apparently can't work with unicode

oh

nikki: unicode.translate is different from str.translate

nikki: the unicode version accepts a dict, the str version accept a 256 bytes long str bytestring

if only I understood that :/

aha

it's a really weird method

ouch

luks: thanks.

so I can't use ranges?

there seems to be no function to convert ranges to such a table

ew :/

python obviously wasn't designed for people like me then :P