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      • NordSig
        Is it necessary to add ltd, inc and so on to the label name?
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      • reosarevok
        Normally not
      • kepstin
        NordSig: we usually use the label name as it's shown in the logotype.
      • reosarevok goes have a shower and sleep
      • NordSig
        What about record studio?
      • reosarevok
        We don't store those at the moment
      • But you could add the info in the annotation
      • (press "Add annotation" in the sidebar of the release page :) )
      • NordSig
        Thanks
      • reosarevok
        nikki: I was adding a standalone recording. Guess where I wrote the name?
      • NordSig
        There is one more question.
      • nikki
        in the comment? :P
      • reosarevok
        of course! :/
      • reosarevok is really stupid or the interface is confusing
      • Probably a)
      • heh
      • reosarevok laughs at "mixer" but "recorded by"
      • reosarevok would love to see "recorder" and imagine those as flutes
      • nikki
        there's a reason I didn't use recorder :P
      • NordSig
        I have PUIDs in file
      • *files
      • Obtained by genpuid
      • How must I add them to MB?
      • kepstin
        NordSig: when you load the files in musicbrainz picard, a button on the toolbar "submit puids" will light up. Press that.
      • NordSig
        They were recognized and button is grey.
      • Does it mean that PUIDs already submitted?
      • kepstin
        NordSig: maybe. There are several reasons why that won't work.
      • NordSig
        But they aren't showed in PUID tab.
      • at MB
      • kepstin
        If you drag the files into the left side of the window and press the "Scan" button, it will try again to detect the PUIDs.
      • We don't run the PUID server, and it is sometimes very slow. You might just have to wait before it will work.
      • (It could be a long time)
      • It could be days or weeks.
      • NordSig
        I pressed scan, but submit is still grey.
      • All right!
      • It worked out after clicking recognize.
      • PUIDs were associated.
      • The last question.
      • Songs' lengths are ought to be entered manually?
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      • kepstin
        NordSig: if you submit the Disc ID in Picard, the track titles will be updated automatically
      • (The update runs once per day, if the times aren't showing up yet, just wait.)
      • NordSig
        I have not hard copy CD now :(
      • kepstin
        NordSig: then yes, you will have to manually enter the song lengths.
      • NordSig
        Ok.
      • Thanks for help. Good-bye.
      • kepstin
        NordSig: no problem. Come back again if you have more trouble!
      • nikki
        anyone from portugal here?
      • reosarevok
        Not a language issue, so Brazilian is not specially useful
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      • bitmap
        yay, another fish trophy
      • nikki
        ?
      • bitmap
      • nikki
        aww
      • nikki should've submitted her patch sooner
      • reosarevok
        Anyway, davitf: I'm not sure what "electronic drum set" is
      • bitmap
        it's my second one...supposedly warp doesn't have any :P
      • davitf
        people not in -devel: I just asked this there by accident
      • reosarevok
        But I've seen people who play live drums with patches on them and if they hit those patches pre-programmed stuff plays
      • davitf
        a credit I'm adding says "drum programming"; which instrument should I use? http://musicbrainz.org/admin/linkattributetype/...
      • nikki hasn't had any either, but hasn't done many
      • it's studio, the credits also have keyboard and piano programming
      • and synth
      • bitmap
        I'm wondering if it gives one for 1337
      • nikki
        maybe I should wait and find out :P
      • bitmap
        :P
      • nikki
        but maybe not, this one has the stuff with the button for standalone recordings
      • bitmap
        tough call
      • break up the review into six smaller chunks ;)
      • nikki
        I think it's actually 9 tickets
      • but they're all like 2 or 3 lines each
      • hawke_
      • nikki
        I thought the cover had it all lowercase?
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      • nikki also wonders if the right quote is correct
      • 'cause it could just as well be german-style quotes :P
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      • hawke_
        nikki: well, the cover is visible on each release
      • nikki
        hm?
      • v6lur
        bitmap: (sorry for bugging, but) did you figure out why those strings are not translatable?
      • hawke_
        nikki: the cover art on return to central...all releases have it. Not sure about german-style quotes though
      • nikki
        I mean that you left central capitalised when the cover has it lowercase
      • hawke_
        Ah, whoops
      • bitmap
        v6lur: I have http://codereview.musicbrainz.org/r/1331/ open which will make the pending files thing (and more release formats) translatable, but luks will still have to update/sync everything on LP
      • I might be able to do that too, but I trust him more with it :)
      • hawke_
        nikki: what was that about german-style quotes then, with the right quote?
      • v6lur
        bitmap: thank you :)
      • nikki
        german-style quotes are „foo“
      • hawke_
        Ah. Doesn't look like that to me.
      • nikki
        it doesn't look like either of them to me :P
      • hawke_
        either of which?
      • nikki
        “ or ”
      • hawke_
        Looks more like ” to me
      • there is a slight angle to them
      • nikki
        because it's in italics? :P
      • hawke_
        possible
      • kepstin notes that if people had to type german quotes in ascii, they would typically use ,,'' or ,,"
      • nikki
        unless they're actually german
      • v6lur
        german quotes are lower 99 and then upper 66 ?
      • nikki
        yep
      • but it's not a german release, and those aren't standard english quotes, so who knows which one it is
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      • STalKer-Y
        who would have guessed a robbie williams track appearing on a playstation soccer game CD?
      • nikki
        that doesn't seem that surprising to me :P
      • kepstin
        yay, I successfully merged bitmap's latest changes to his release relationships script
      • that one actually touched some code I modified :/
      • hmm. wait, something broke. Now I'm not getting track ranges any more :(
      • derwin
        but it parses, right?
      • kepstin
        but my code for the track ranges is identical...
      • derwin
        that's what's really important
      • ship it!
      • bitmap
        sorry about that :/ some of the changes I made didn't even fix anything, they were just to simplify the code a bit
      • kepstin
        "(tracks 1 2 3 4 5 6)" is much less cool than "(tracks 1-6)" :(
      • huh, and in some places it's downright broken
      • nikki
        does it still work without your changes?
      • 'cause perhaps he broke it in your browser
      • kepstin
        my changes aren't relevant, just some html formatting for a table.
      • kepstin tries anyways
      • bitmap
        works fine in all the browsers I have installed still
      • I changed the names of a few variables, perhaps a few of them didn't get replaced when you merged things
      • kepstin
        ok, apparently my changes are relevant :)
      • kepstin ponders
      • aha, found it. yeah, you renamed "tracks" to "str" in two lines that I'd changed the formatting in.
      • all better :)
      • bitmap
        oops, so I made the variable name even more vague :P
      • kepstin
      • nikki gives the lyricist weird looks
      • nikki: that release has lyricist both on works and as a release ar.
      • nikki
        and why? :P
      • kepstin
        somewhere in your massive subscription email you can vote on my deleting the duplicate release ar :)
      • nikki
        ah, so it doesn't show pending edits?
      • kepstin
        nope; i dunno if pending edits are exposed in the webservice.
      • nikki
        I guess that'd be too hard without it being part of the server
      • kepstin
        bitmap: it does use the webservice, right?
      • bitmap
        no, unfortunately
      • kepstin: yes
      • kepstin
        http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/405600/ is my latest version with the fancy table at the bottom, if anyone's curious.
      • nikki voted on those edits
      • nikki
        bitmap: would it be possible to order the relationships by entities first? (so that all the artist-* relationships are first, followed by things like recording-recording and recording-work)
      • kepstin
        hmm. it's a pretty simplistic parser right now, it's just grabbing all of the <relation> elements in the webservice reply and putting them into one list.
      • nikki
        ah
      • kepstin
        it looks like it would certainly be possible; might not even be that hard.
      • someone remind me not to leave screenshots of my web browser open in my web browser. It confuses me when I try to use the page, and it doesn't work :)
      • nikki
        I do that XD
      • even if it someone else's screenshot...
      • nikki tried to click a link on yours :P
      • kepstin
        heh
      • lol
      • hmm. bitmap's script doesn't do the fancy instrument combining like the real relationships page: you get separate "acoustic guitar", "electric guitar", etc. entries instead of "acoustic guitar, electric guitar, piano and synthesizer"