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      • ianmcorvidae
        yup
      • the guy was in here interviewing ruaok the other day
      • ruaok
        lame. I can't even read the article myself.
      • I guess I'll wait til next week
      • ianmcorvidae
        oh well
      • kepstin
        ruaok: actually, you'll be able to read it... thursday, I think.
      • not totally sure on that :)
      • might be next thursday, not this thursday :(
      • ruaok
        the 7th it says.
      • hawke_
      • ianmcorvidae
        ooh
      • cool :)
      • kepstin
        oh, right, I forgot about the subscriber sharing mode ;)
      • hawke_
        I really love that they do that.
      • One of the many reasons I keep my subscription. :-)
      • v6lur
        i'd like to humbly ask for votes on three record merges -- i'd like to edit them mediums, but there's MBS-2739 :/
      • s/record/recording/
      • kepstin
        v6lur: looks like they're all linking a compilation to the recordings off the original releases?
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      • v6lur
        yup
      • ruaok
        hawke_: thanks for the link.
      • that article was well written.
      • CatCat
        what, add cd toc is a votable mod now?
      • bitmap
        hawke_: I'm here now (if you're question is still relevant)
      • your
      • Yllona
        hawke_ or ruaok: what article? (sorry i missed it)
      • ruaok
      • Yllona
        ruaok: ah, yes. should make for very good reading. thanks!
      • hawke_
        bitmap: It is. Two things, both regarding your userscript which shows relationships on release pages.
      • bitmap
        okay
      • hawke_
      • It shows “chamber performing orchestra”?
      • bitmap
        a lot of the relationship names are different from the link phrases, and I haven't fixed some of them
      • hawke_
        k
      • bitmap
        should it just be "chamber orchestra"?
      • hawke_
        If you want it to be the same as the relationships page, yeah.
      • kepstin
        hawke_: the issue is that the webservice doesn't provide the link text - only a sort of identifier string for each relation. So the script has to know about the different types to get the wording right.
      • hawke_
        kepstin: nod.
      • bitmap: Second thing: hitting “show relationships at bottom” doesn’t remove them from inline, and hitting “show relationships inline” keeps duplicating them inline.
      • (as you toggle back and forth)
      • (if you don’t have one handy, you can see a release with a lot of track-level releases at http://musicbrainz.org/release/ef69efd1-a96a-3f...)
      • kepstin notes that it used to clear them, but in the copy he has, he manually disabled that because it conflicted with jesus2099's isrc/puid script.
      • bitmap
        I can't reproduce that in any browser I have installed
      • hawke_: what browser are you using?
      • hawke_
        bitmap: Chromium 12.0.742.91 (87961) Ubuntu 11.04
      • bitmap
        worksforme in chromium 14.0.797.0 (89636)
      • hawke_
        heh
      • bitmap
        maybe you have duplicate copies of the script installed ;)
      • (it's happened to me before)
      • hawke_
        Nope.
      • bitmap
        hmm
      • hawke_
        I do have: Show full annotation., Easier work merging, Batch-add "performance of" relationships, and jesus2099’s Inline PUID+ISRC and duplicate finder (all browsers)
      • bitmap
        maybe the PUID+ISRC script is conflicting with it
      • hawke_
        bitmap: Yup, that’s it.
      • bitmap
        ah
      • I thought I already fixed a conflict with that :/
      • hawke_
        bitmap: Maybe you did and another one cropped up. :-)
      • Oh, one more thing: Would it be feasible to have that script show the relations at the RG level?
      • bitmap
        what kind of relations?
      • hawke_
        Well…at least the release-level relations, but really all relations would be nice.
      • The problem I’m trying to solve is that you have to drill down to the track level from a release group to find any of the performers.
      • bitmap
        release-level relations for every release?
      • it's possible, it would require a request for each release though
      • I uploaded a new version fixing the performing orchestra thing btw http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/104349
      • hawke_
        bitmap: The problem is that currently, if I have a well-known classical piece like Vivaldi’s “The Four Seasons”, and I want to clean up the release group list so that the performer(s) are in comments…
      • …In order to find out if there are any performers, and what those performers may be, I have to go from the search, to the RG, to a release (hoping they’re all the same enough), to a random track on the recording (hoping I pick a track that has a performer AR)
      • bitmap
        hawke_: yeah, I can see why it would be useful. I can look into it
      • hawke_
        The script helps in that I only have to go from search to RG to a random release, in hopes that they’re all the same…but being able to look at the release group alone and see immediately if there are any performers would be helpful
      • I understand that it would generate a lot of requests though, and why that would be undesirable
      • bitmap
        hawke_: what if a small button was added next to each release, allowing you to expand the relationships for a specific one?
      • hawke_
        What, have an inline display for each release? That would work nicely.
      • bitmap
        yes, I suppose so
      • hawke_
        (I assume that’s what you mean by “expand the relationships”
      • bitmap
        basically just display them under the release you request them for
      • hawke_
        right
      • Speaking of placing buttons next to releases and such…it would be pretty cool to have a script that added an icon next to any track that had an associated work.
      • bitmap
        my script shows associated works already, or do you mean just the icon?
      • hawke_
        er…which script?
      • derwin
        does anyone have a script that, if the release has a discogs relationship, will relate the discogs release "master" to the release group?
      • bitmap
        the relationships script we were just talking about ;)
      • it shows "performance of" relationships
      • derwin: I don't know of any
      • hawke_
        bitmap: Ah, I see. I think an icon would be nice, because the “performance of” tends to get mixed in with the other relations
      • also because an icon would go nicely with “show relations at bottom”
      • derwin
        bitmap, given what you know of such things, seem tractable?
      • bitmap
        hawke_: I could probably sort them so they don't get mixed in as much
      • derwin: how would the script work? add the master URL automatically while you're adding a release-level URL?
      • derwin
        yeah, something like that
      • basically, I tend to add releases, and associate the discogs url, but I do not want to click up to the release group and hunt around for the discogs url
      • but it's always 1:1
      • (I think?)
      • hawke_
        bitmap: That might work, though I still think icons would be nicer for the quick “at a glance” view of which tracks need to have associated works. But, it’s your script so I won’t feel bad if you say “no”. :-)
      • bitmap
        it could probably be done in two requests
      • hawke_: maybe once an icon for works is created :)
      • (there's a ticket for it)
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      • hawke_
        bitmap: What, the simple divided purple/orange square (as used on any work page) doesn’t scream “Work” to you?
      • bitmap
        lol
      • never even noticed it until now
      • hawke_
        Voted for the work icon ticket, though
      • bitmap
        I could probably scale that one down for now
      • hawke_
        Could also be good to put on an artist’s recordings page — might be a better thing for a different script though, to avoid the one growing too many features.
      • bitmap
        well, my other script can already show associated works on recording pages (but no icon)
      • it waits a second between requesting each one though, so it's rather slow
      • hawke_ is out, bbl
      • derwin
        bitmap are your scripts in pythonm/
      • ?
      • bitmap
        derwin: the browser scripts?
      • derwin
        I see, javascript
      • bitmap
        yes
      • derwin
        I'd also like to auto-associate the releae with the url from discogs as I import, hehe
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