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      • reosarevok
        Maybe if you put it at the top of it?
      • I think we'd still have an UI problem if it is at the bottom
      • hrglgrmpf
        maybe...
      • it is a completely bogus property anyway
      • reosarevok
        heh
      • hrglgrmpf
        you could also have a script per name
      • (*every* name, also for artists, tracks, recordings, label)
      • there is no reason why it belongs at release level, or even at tracklist level
      • it is clear in 99% cases (i.e. can be computer determined), and in the interesting cases (e.g. mixed script in tracklists) it can't be used
      • reosarevok
        hrglgrmpf, heh, looking at the release your bot edited ( http://musicbrainz.org/release/b5e822f9-bbf3-4e... )
      • 1983 South Africa CD?
      • Something sounds wrong to me :/
      • reosarevok goes check
      • hrglgrmpf
        huuu :-)
      • it was the first one
      • reosarevok
        heh
      • Discogs have no date for this one
      • hrglgrmpf
        it is 2 times on discogs:
      • :-)
      • should we add both links?
      • reosarevok
        I... guess so?
      • In case more stuff gets added to the http://www.discogs.com/artist/Evoid one
      • reosarevok removes the date from that release
      • hrglgrmpf
        hmm, I could also just fix discogs :-)
      • reosarevok
        If you can, go ahead
      • hrglgrmpf
        I don't know...
      • I don't know if I am allowed to
      • they normally have this: only edit your own releases policy
      • (releases that you physically own)
      • reosarevok
        Hmmm, *technically*, the 1983 date is possible
      • Although unlikely
      • reosarevok is not sure what to do
      • hrglgrmpf
        remove it
      • 99% this was meant as original release date, for the tags
      • reosarevok
        hrglgrmpf, I've seen the back cover
      • It's copyright date
      • So basically, it can perfectly be a reissue - that one wouldn't change AFAIK
      • reosarevok adds http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-3950 " Warn user and ask for extra confirmation when merging different ISRCs"
      • reosarevok wishes we could subscribe to recordings :(
      • hrglgrmpf
        yes, would be cool
      • reosarevok
        heh
      • hrglgrmpf
        I just can't handle all my subscriptions
      • >30 pages after 3 days
      • reosarevok
        Actually, maybe I should add a ticket for that too
      • hrglgrmpf, even discounting your own bot's edits?
      • hrglgrmpf
        yes
      • I voted on all those
      • reosarevok
        :/
      • hrglgrmpf
        just too much floating in
      • I have to unsubscribe from a few
      • I ran a script a month ago that subscribed me to every artist I have on my hard disk
      • reosarevok
        heh
      • Ik
      • *Ok
      • If I did that I'd die
      • I suspect
      • But I imagine there are a few ones which get lots of edits
      • hrglgrmpf
        it's pretty equally...
      • I have a "stuff" folder (music I don't really care about but I don't want to delete music), and a "music" folder (music I like)
      • I thought this helps me categorize :-)
      • if I see edits coming in and think: "WTF is this artist, I don't even know" I move the music to "stuff"
      • reosarevok
        heh
      • hrglgrmpf, (nikki, kepstin-laptop and SultS maybe too?): http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-3951
      • reosarevok guesses this won't happen soon, but still
      • nikki
        hrglgrmpf: I think setting ascii stuff to latin is fine if there's nothing set now
      • hrglgrmpf: although if you can figure out how to use unicode properties, [\p{ASCII}\p{Latin}] would include all the other latin characters too :P
      • nikki has only done it in perl
      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: I do it in rounds :-)
      • 1. round -> ASCII
      • see how many are left
      • SultS
        reosarevok I see it being useful, but maybe won't find much use by most of the users. Voted still
      • hrglgrmpf
        2. round -> Latin
      • see how many are left
      • nikki is currently running a script over the entire db to see which scripts are used in each release
      • reosarevok
        SultS, that's why we people who *could* use it should vote on it ;)
      • nikki
        but my code is slow :(
      • hrglgrmpf
        if there are still too many, look how many safe choices there can be made further :-)
      • reosarevok
        I would vote for 12 months or even unscheduled maybe but I still want the ticket to be in and people to know some of us care :)
      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: and your results will change every time you run the script :-):
      • reosarevok agrees with hrglgrmpf
      • reosarevok
        (about doing ASCII first)
      • nikki
        hrglgrmpf: yeah, but it's already brought up some weird stuff
      • hrglgrmpf
      • I'm actually doing it super-safe: only if *all* names (artist credit, track name of the release, the mediums and the tracklist) are in ASCII, it will set the script
      • nikki
        like 103 releases set to cyrillic which are really just latin
      • hrglgrmpf
        these are errors we only have because we allow setting the script by humans
      • nikki
        yeah, exactly
      • reosarevok
        So, nikki, should hrglgrmpf_bot go wild with setting ASCII to Latin?
      • hrglgrmpf
        I'd say, modbot should set the script automatically for the safe choices
      • reosarevok
        Or is there any possible downside?
      • hrglgrmpf
        reosarevok: it is already going wild :-)
      • nikki
        reosarevok: I already said so
      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • Just making sure! :)
      • Yay for botting!
      • hrglgrmpf
        python mechanize is great... I didn't know it before I saw luks script
      • I had no idea that it is this easy to script the release editor...
      • I mean to automatically use it
      • ocharles
        mechanize exists for perl too
      • nikki
        :o
      • ocharles
        and 'Network.HTTP.Browser' for Haskell
      • hrglgrmpf
        I've written my own http-handling module once for my b-thesis :-(
      • ocharles
        Doh, I wrote 2 mailing list posts on the train tuesday morning, and forgot to actually send them
      • hrglgrmpf
        maybe we need language guessing, too...
      • who will categorize 65032 releases without language?
      • reosarevok
      • nikki
        hrglgrmpf: we used to have something in mason that would try and guess the language... it gave some pretty hilarious results
      • reosarevok
        s/hilarious/awesome
      • Except for actually using them that is
      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: I'm using pythons guessLanguage for my mails, it works pretty good
      • I think if all the track names are put together in one long string, it can work pretty well
      • reosarevok
        hrglgrmpf, care to make a test? :)
      • hrglgrmpf
        well, later :-)
      • reosarevok
        Yeah, sure
      • I mean in genersl
      • *general even
      • hrglgrmpf
        like, only setting "English" if it is >99% sure would help alot
      • just to make the report interesting again
      • nikki
        I think something like ocharles's scheduling thing would probably work though, detect the language of a bunch of things, and then show people a screen with the tracklist and the guess where they can say yes or no
      • reosarevok
        Hmmm
      • reosarevok likes
      • hrglgrmpf
        well, but if I just get 1000 times a normal English tracklist, I will give up because it is boring
      • reosarevok
        hrglgrmpf, add filter-by-language!
      • People who are bori... I mean, monolingual can use the English list
      • :p
      • nikki
        well if you detect the language first, you could store the percentage too and make sure people don't get 1000 99% matches :P
      • unless they want it...
      • hrglgrmpf
        hmm, I always asked myself what "Multiple languages" is giving us
      • basically nothing...
      • nikki only uses it for things where there are really a whole bunch of languages
      • yes, that is good
      • nikki: hmm, if you feel like it, you can add the license type I think :-)
      • it has been around for 2 weeks now :-)
      • nikki
        ok
      • nikki hasn't checked her email today
      • reosarevok
        license!
      • :)
      • hrglgrmpf
        I'm still not sure how to support it properly by the server though
      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • hrglgrmpf
        so that download URL and license can be selected both at the same time
      • but should be possible
      • nikki
        I would -re-add the page we used to have
      • hrglgrmpf
        ?
      • nikki grumbles at myspace and wonders what "Deine Homepage wird routinemäßig gewartet." is supposed to mean
      • nikki
        does that mean they deleted the account?
      • reosarevok
        Oh, hrglgrmpf: I was thinking about the discogs artist edits
      • How are you processing them?
      • nikki
      • reosarevok
        Would it be possible to autoedit them if a) Discogs has only 1 artist with that name and b) the coincidence is over a certain threshold?