#musicbrainz

either way, you should also add an annotation to the recording explaining the vocalist credit.

kepstin: yes, I've used it in classical for unknwon composers but I wasn't sure it was meant to be used in this case

hrglgrmpf: nope, it is just believed to be one of the singer's wives but apart from this ...

does she only appear on one recording?

Sekhmetouserapis: in that case I would just use the "[unknown]" artist like kepstin said, and add it to the annotation

kovacsur: only on 4-5 of them

hrglgrmpf: ok, thanks

Sekhmetouserapis: np

hrglgrmpf: either they were very old edits or they were removing the release date

nikki, can you make me a query?

All releases with Estonia as a country by artists with no country set

(or can I do that in-site?)

Seems I can't

:(

nikki: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14588457

removing barcode also failed, but you were not involved: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14596363

then it was because of the date

nikki: what''s the date good for?

it's one of the few fields that most music players can use

Ok

I can see it for now

But we should just tell Picard to follow trans(lit) rels

which is why I already entered a ticket for it :P

I saw that one coming :-)

:P

:)

Great

nikki: how would it be handled?

it stores the album MBID of the pseudo-release?

or of the real release?

because either way, retagging is impossible :-(

ah

bitmap was clever enough to also realize this :-)

bitmap's approach makes sense to me

It's not as if we could run out of fields for IDs :p

(or can we?)

hehe

yeah, I also mentioned in the ticket that I'm not sure what we can do other than multiple ids

well, I wouldn't want to have the word "Pseudo Release" in the tag

"musicbrainz_tracklist_albumid"?

(it is the album used for the tracklist, while it is originally another release)?

bravo

“toastbrot”?

nicht spreche Deutch?

just "Toast" would be also ok to say in German :-)

Aha

Weird.

Special bread for toasting

"Toastbrot" = "Toast bread"

yep

well toastbrot = what I know as bread

I think the figure of speech is called "pleonasm"

but I don't recall

nikki: You don’t eat bread??

yes?

he means "real" bread :-)

depends what counts :P

in the uk though pretty much everyone eats sliced bread that can go in the toaster

but here nobody seems to

nikki: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a...

+1

Though the oval loaf would be annoying

I would eat that one if I had no other options, but I'm not a fan of them

hehe... there is a German sentence: "Schwarzes Brot macht Wangen rot, weißes Brot macht Kinder tot"

understand?

I mostly buy mehrkornbrötchen, whatever *they* are in english. I saw a good description somewhere that was something like "bread buns that look like they've been rolled around on a bird table"

nice

ja :P

ha

as a child you usually here from your mother that you shouldn't eat toast and other white bread, but healthy ones

s/here/hear/

the only thing I've heard in england is that eating the crusts makes your hair curly

hu?

strange indeed

and loads of kids won't eat the crusts

and they're not even proper crusts anyway

so the bread makers started making crustless bread, which I found totally ridiculous

unless it's real crust

:)

maybe that's why my hair's curly :P (like I believe that)

anyway, it's not real bread that you have in England ^^

fits in the toaster though :D

btw, login on test is working again now

Toasters

Meh!

8)

unlike reosarevok, I like my bread not burnt ;D

Oh, I can burn bread in a toaster too

My fail-ability is unsurpassed

you're special :P

lol :)

here, when we say that someone is "special" it means that he's a bit thick ^^

My wife likes hear toast warmed…barely even to the point of toast.

Sekhmetouserapis: I think that was the implication

Sekhmetouserapis: double-entendre

hawke_ understood me :)

Yeah :P I did too

you were supposed to >:P

so I'm the only one who didn't get it at first ? Am I special too ? :(

No, you're French

:D

so french are europes americans?

*choking of course :s

well, I assume you're not a native speaker so you wouldn't normally be expected to understand everything :)

reosarevok isn't either, but since it was aimed at him, it wouldn't have worked if he hadn't understood it :P

each time i go searching for ISWCs i'm amazed at the mess they have in their artists' names

they normalize the names to a specific format, "FAMILY GIVEN ADDITIONAL NAMES"

But they do it VERY BADLY, I must say

it's not only the format, it's quite frequent for an artist to be in the DB under multiple names

yep.

so, does anyone want to +1 my video channel ar proposal?

nikki!

we could start a trade for +1 on our RFCs ;-)

hrglgrmpf, are you RFCing something now?

just the License-Recording stuff

it was just a joke, I don't really need +1 on that… :-)

if anybody wants it, he should give a +1

huh, license-recording hasn't passed yet?

I see that reosarevok said he was going to +1 it, but never did...

Yeah, also the Viet one

(which I'm +1 ing now)

:p

Oh, kepstin-laptop, thanks for saving me the +1 :p

heh.

hi, i have a question about how subscriptions work: if i subscribe to an artist, does that me i get notified when there is a new release by that artist created or only if there is an edit to the artist entry directly (like birthdate)?

Anything related to the artist

new release, AR involving that artist…

…edit to any release or recording attributed to the artist

(Not sure if that last includes ARs or only credits…anyone else know?)

Not sure

I certainly wish that were better-documented. :-(

Anyway, it’s definitely more than direct artist entries

hawke_: anything that shows up in the artist edit history

hawke_, it's a wiki ;)

reosarevok: No it’s not.