#musicbrainz

luks or bitmap: any idea about http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid... ?

function1: normally that just wants you to press the red Select button and then select a recording

function1: are you still stuck? or did that get you going again?

no i think its going. got the first cd added, though it required a 'remove medium' edit of the one-track cd1 i added

track parser is funky, can't figure out delimiters

I usually clean up copied tracklists in a text editor before pasting into the track parser.

grumble grumble

yeah i had to do that

it does. us!

and unvoted edits get implemented after 2 weeks?

yes

When did Last.fm start actively grabbing tracklists/release dates from MB? Seems fairly recent (a few months, at most)...

Question regarding Adding releses: Best practice to add tack number ? I like to pad track number to 2 digit, ie 00,01,02.. Is this accepted ?

Just leave it as 1, 2, 3, etc. You can pad it at a later stage (e.g. Picard)

jacobbrett: Ok..

dixoncx: If it's a vinyl/cassette release, you might consider A1, A2, B1, B2: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Hawke/Proposal... (this isn't an official guideline)

Also how can i add attitional info, say composer, lyricist..

dixoncx: On a release page, in the right column is a link towards the bottom "Edit relationships"...it's a new system--I haven't tried it myself, but it looks good.

This is good guide, too: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Relationships

jacobbrett: hmm, let me try..

jacobbrett: Is it anyway possible from picard ? Tried plugin 'Add cluster as release ' but it didnt support this..

dixoncx: Is what possible, exactly? Adding composer from existing tags?

yes

Say, first i fixed my local files with picard adding add data. Then i wants to add them in MB.

dixoncx: no, sorry, not possible right now. It's better to add information on the website first, and use picard after.

But adding meta-data to local files through picard is much easy compared to adding them in website..:(

dixoncx: I'm not sure it would save you too much time anyway, as text values would have to be matched to MB entities

Is it possible to add relationships - 'composer', 'lyricist' etc. to track/recording instead of release? So i can add different 'lyricist' to different tracks..

I want to add relationship: 'Release' was composed by 'Artist'. I cant find 'Composition' sub-category in for 'Recording'. But its available for 'Release'.

<jacobbrett>, <kepstin-laptop>: Are you there ?

dixoncx: Yep, you should be able to do that through the "Edit relationships" interface.

Composition is for works, not recordings.

also, recordings are linked to works

define work. is it not recording ?

A work is an entity that represents the composition...the recording is a performance of that composition

in the relationship editor, you should see "← Add related work →"?

yes

you can use that to find an existing work, or create a new one...then link it to that recording...then, you should be able to add relationships to that work in the "Related works" column

Here's some definitions from the wiki: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Work http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Recording

Works means cover, live etc ? But i want to add different composer for different tracks in same recording.

Here i can only access composer relationship for release

Made a typo: But i want to add different composer for different tracks in same 'Release'

Say track-1 : composer-X, track-2 : composer-Y in Release-Z

Did you add a work for one of the recordings? If you do, you should be able to add a composer to that work in the right column...it will apply only for that track (because of the work--recording relationship)

then, you have to add a work for each of the other recordings and add composers to each of those works, too

hmm, let me try..

<jacobbrett>: Look this: http://musicbrainz.org/release/ef9d69e7-3b8c-44... Is it Ok ?

dixoncx: Perfect!

Also, if you want to create many works or add many relationships at the same time, mark the checkboxes and use the "batch-add" tools at the top of the page.

Thanks for the tip.

Also will this fill composer tag when other users use picard to get metadata ?

dixoncx: Yes, I think it should definitely if they choose "use track relationships".

(That's an option under "Metadata")

<jacobbrett>: While adding or editing details, will they update database concurrently ?

dixoncx: Picard's database? You would have to right click the release in Picard and press "refresh" after you make the changes in MB.

Also where is the option "use track relationships" ? In picard ?

dixoncx: If you're making new additions, they'll take effect straight away. Though usually if you're editing an existing relationship or other data, there's a two week (maximum) voting period before the change is made.

Yes, under the Metadata options.

K, iwill look through it..

jacobbrett: Works great !!!

dixoncx: :)

jacobbrett: Also whats best practice for adding album art ? Am adding this by uploading picture. But most of releases add them with url relationship ?

The URL relationship shouldn't be used any more...you should upload them through the "cover art" tab. It only supports JPG right now, though. The higher quality/size the better (it also resizes to 500px/250px)!

jacobbrett: K, thanks..

Question About Language in release. Is this means the language in which artist sings song ?

jacobbrett: :)

No, that's the language that the release and track titles are printed in :) ... you can specify the lyric language on the work

if the song was translated, you'd make a new work for the translation and link the works together

k

hrmm

Shouldn't the Duane Eddy version of the Peter Gunn theme get its own work?

apparently it's only credited to Mancini even on the original single and in ISWCNet, but he changed the actual riff (the last interval is a whole note instead of a semitone) and pretty much every later version is based on his

...or not

Heh.

warp: +1 to your added agenda item!!

(But you're likely not surprised by this. :p)

Come on people. There must be others I can +1 than warp!

:D

Freso: you're awesome!

reosarevok: Thank you.

Freso: wtf

Not +1? :p

Oh.

:D

I wonder why someone decides to import Discogs cover pictures, but then stops after uploading less than half.

Interesting.

Because importing loads of pics is BORING

I guess :)

Psh.

I really wish we had that "import via URL" though.

I'm not so sure... I'd prefer more people uploading their own verified and high-quality scans

I'd prefer both

kovacsur: If you buy me a scanner, will you post-scan edit my high quality scans? :)

that... sounds fair

kovacsur: Grand!

what kind of post-processing do you mean? just cropping/straightening/levels correction?

Yeah.

I don't mind doing the scanning work, but I don't like spending time in image editors. :p

I wonder if that's a common problem that's keeping people from uploading cover art

if it is, maybe we should think of a way to upload raws that others can clean up

I have somewhat of the opposite problem in that I dislike the scanning but am better at the image editor work