#musicbrainz

nikki: Danish. :p

also, hum, maybe I'm bad at that internet thing, but I can't see to find where on that page I can download the songs for free

nikki: "[1-31]. (januar,februar,marts,april,maj,juni,juli,august,september,oktober,november,december) [-∞ - ∞]"

Also, I think I mixed up mp3.com with that Russian site that was well-known some years back.

heh, I love this case.. the published lyrics differ from the album version

Freso: historically, mp3.com did in fact get in some trouble.

wow, I am pretty excited that multiple release countries/dates go back to a single release.

that was actually my biggest worry in terms of corpus explosion

Does Picard or its cover art plugin have any way to limit CAA images to at most 500x500, at least for what gets embedded?

keeping 1 entity per country of release when in fact it's exactly the same album in every country

I came across 1MB+ large cover art and am not amused.

Thanks, I was about to search for the respective line of code.

derwin, corpus explosion?

and I thought I liked to use weird words :p

yes, explosion in terms of size of the corpus

many more entities at little benefit

you wouldn't keep 16 specimens of the common house fly.

corpus explosion sounds like something we'd do late at night at an MB summit when very bored

or in a cemetary after dark

haha

derwin: I know what you meant, it just was a very... specific way of saying it :)

yeah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_expl...

And yeah, that's why we wanted to get this

Once we have it we could do stuff like query iTunes for all regional release dates and auto-add that

that's the most duplicated entity

if there's release-per-country

because tracks are more unique

(I suppose...)

ianmcorvidae: I am pretty confident you could determine the most-and-least-cardinal entities?

hm?

well, like, recordings are on one-or-more releases

identical-seeming-except-id releases are releases in one or more country

it seems like there is a set of things you can determine are "the same" and count

from that, you could establish the cardinality of those entities, and predict relative growth rates

derwin> wow, I am pretty excited that multiple release countries/dates go back to a single release. <- this times a million

hah, irccloud says that was 42 minutes ago :3

Should I add all the downloads on http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?ban... as singles?

They all have "cover art", and I'm guessing most of them have a "release date" in the form of an upload date.

Muz: Are you mustaqila on Flickr?

reoafk nikki: ^*2 ?

I don't know if he is, but probably

Any ideas what the sort name for a Hungarian artist's Cyrillic Serbian birth name should be?

do you know which part is the surname?

Hungarian name: Sztevanovity Dusán, Serbian Cyrillic: Душан Стевановић (English transliteration: Dushan Stevanovich), Serbian Latin: Dušan Stevanović

sure, the problem is what language to transliterate to

Freso: yes he is (muz)

nikki: The "*2" was meant to indicate that you should skip one.

nikki: Ie., I wasn't asking you about Muz' Flickr account. :)

Freso: that was not very clear :P

kovacsur: if you're talking about alias sortnames, then it should just be the cyrillic version. the whole point of adding sortnames there was so that we could have sortnames appropriate to the locale instead of using arbitrary transliterations that are useless for sorting

kovacsur: if your'e talking about the main artist name, then it's arbitrary anyway :P

nikki: Are you indicating that I may occassionally express myself an unconcise, possibly even ambigious, manner? How... rude!

nikki, thanks, it will be for an alias (whew)

*in an

Freso: it was concise, just a bit too concise :P

:p

nikki: Yeah, I guess I should've used ^~1 instead.

Is there a way to tag multiple images of someone else's on Flickr?

jesus: Je sais pas si tu peux y faire grand chose mais le MAss merge recordings script ne fonctionne que si le tab est au premier plan sur firefox.

Muz: You should add https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Flickr_Machine_Tag to your Flickr pictures. :)

Freso: sounds like effort.

Muz: I would, but I don't see a way to tag multiple images in one go, and I don't feel like going through your pictures one by one. :p

You should build me a tool that'd do it for me.

I dont think I have that many music related photos anyway.

And I haven't used Flickr in A While.

Muz: You can use Flickr's own interface to tag multiple images with the same tag. And I count 53 (of your 200) images at least, just looking at your frontpage.

Plus one video.

navap: Did you make the WikiPage for the showcase stuff yet btw?

hey all :)

... why is the nick in use 0o

... some french guy on another channel D:

Freso: still, effort for a site I don't regularly use :P

It'd be more worthwhile to go through and write a tool that does it cleverly.

Muz: But added value for MusicBrainz!

(And -Bottle!)

Could utilise last.fm event machine tags for added reliability.

Muz: But I don't know anything about image matching. And I don't trust names or name based lookups enough to base it on that.

Confidence models based on several pieces of metadata.

Sounds like effort. :)

anyone know if there's a ticket to make it possible to paste MB links into the recording search when editing recordings in the track list? At the moment, it sort of results in the page glitching/accepting no more input for that track

Freso: and now you can see why I can't be arsed.

Does anyone know a "Héctor Arroyo Santiago"?

Muz: It'd be 5 minutes to tag the things for you.

Muz: It'd be at least 5 days for me to write such a script.

That's like half an hour in dog years.

Seeing how I've no prior experience with those kinds of algorithms.

Freso: I'm Still in the US. I arrive home in 10 hours, hopefully. So No wiki stuff yet

navap: Ah. Alright.

navap: Did you get another 8 bucks? :p

12 :)

Wow!

Don't go spend it all at once!

Heh, funny you say that

it was two separate vouchers. Ispent one in JFK andMy plan is to redeem the second in Newark

:p

Freso: youcanassign that git commit ticket to me

navap: ;)

navap: Chander?

hawke, hawke_, hawke_1 and all variations thereof :P fixed those ABBA releases, turns out one of them is actually a 1997 remaster with the wrong date (2001)

LordSputnik: Nice.

LordSputnik: Are you sure it’s not a 2001 reissue of the 1997 remaster?

hawke_1: I doubt it, since the purpose of the 2001 remaster was to replace the 1997 one, which was heavily criticised

Or a 2001 remaster of the 2001 reissue of the 1997 remaster?

:P

that seems most likely ;)

Hey, just askin'!

But on balance, I think it was just given the wrong date by a well meaning editor

Sounds good.

Yeah, that edit (by drsaunde) looks like a guess to me.

LordSputnik: Remember to look at the edit history to see if any related edits provided any useable source.

Freso: did do that :P

the source was just "oh, it has bonus tracks, can't be the original"

LordSputnik: :)

Freso: have you seen https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:LordSputnik/T... ?

Nope.

LordSputnik: Did you read the summit notes?

LordSputnik: I don’t suppose you have any way to validate the AcoustIDs on there? I removed the obviously-wrong ones, but there are a few that are not clearly wrong

Freso: yup

LordSputnik: Good. :)

hawke_1: on the whole release?

Freso: I was reading them as ian was typing them ;)

LordSputnik: yeah. I dunno if you actually ahve the release or what

(well, sometimes)

hawke_1: I don't, I know someone in Australia who does, but I don't think I could persuade him to scan his tracks

Freso: I didn't like the idea of pushing the implementation of a redesign to 2-5 years away, it's quite a pressing issue (the fact that nobody knows exactly how to interpret recordings)

or rather, everybody thinks they know, but nobody agrees

https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Flickr_Machine_Tag doesn't seem to load?

it loads for me

derwin: Works for me too. Try and remove the "s" in "https" and see if it's your HTTPS support that's wonky.

(how would my chrome web browser not be able to access https urls?)

oh and it's loading now.

good evening

ugh, how to AR a recording that is essentially a remix performed live...

create a new work for that remix, and link the recording to that?

v6lur: What kind of remix is it?

v6lur: If it's a remix that uses a different beat or where lyrics(/vocal tracks) have been added/removed, it is most likely different enough to warrant a new work anyway.