#musicbrainz

jesus2099: I have never seen a single here in anything other than a cardboard sleeve. Then again, i've only seen maybe 1 or 2...

they're that rare :/

Physical singles are weird in this age :/

Conceptually I mean

And yeah, I haven't seen one in ages

I don't think they're particularly common in Spain anymore, and neither are they here AFAIK

Some Dj said about year ago that he make only few tens copies of single nowadays (in Finland).

Grii, front page of musicbrainz show me 502 and I'm not even logged in

heh

It works for me now, but it has 502d and 500d a few times today

about annotation formatting: "Lists:tab or 4 spaces and: [...]; spaces alone indent" < does not work

is there way search from artists, releases, works in one go?

Like discogs, secondhandsongs, allmusic and mainly all good pages do by default

Jozo: not yet, but I think that was in the works

(although I really really hope it works better than allmusic's search because that's a horrible disaster)

(I accidently purged all my user data from browser) I just tried surf to jira.musicbrainz.com and spotted this page first time..

Is there test page some hidden place?

I don't know... ijabz surely would know but he's not around

nikki, do you know?

Oh, wait.... I've just noticed: guys, are you using https/SSL now?

warp: whether the combined search is testable somewhere

(or at least that's what I assumed)

xplt: it's optional but yes

reosarevok: yay! :D I hope you're now also encrypting passwords :P

xplt: not yet, we're working on it.

reosarevok: paul implemented the webservice side of things as described in the ticket. those links also work on search.musicbrainz.org.

reosarevok: but I haven't been able to come up with a good user interface for those webservice results, so that /ws/2/all webservice is all that there is currently.

I can live with page that show me exact artist, release and work matches and then give me links to show more.

current drop-down menu is frustrating. I want links..

you can't get exact matches from it

warp: ok :)

nikki: Isn't score 100 exact match?

no

100 is best match for this entity type

or something like that

ok

e.g. https://musicbrainz.org/search?query=morning+mu... is not an exact match (50% of the search terms match 50% of the name, so not even close...)

that was the problem I had when I was briefly trying to come up with something. the only time I would use an 'all' search is if it's going to put the best matches at the top, but the scores are useless for that

[offtop] warp: reosarevok: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/996836/Screenshot%20fr... I feel like a spambot 9_6

then I had an argument with ijabz about it and gave up :P

xplt: what's that from?

xplt: hahaha, how do I see my stats?

nikki: my screenshot of Firefox' SSL info (obviously)

reosarevok: If you're using Firefox click on favicon -> More information

yea

how is that obvious

Well, if he had checked it from firefox maybe :p

(it looks completely different in Chrome for example)

Nobody like Firefox nowadays :'( Well...

It always feels to me like it eats even more memory than Chrome

(and that's hard)

So yeah, I only use it when Chrome is closed and I want to open a browser without opening the 20 or so tabs I had open in Chrome when I closed it :)

I also used it to load Naxos' site

huh, xplt is also using firefox in gnome3 :)

reosarevok: I usually open a lot of tabs (like 200 or even more) to read them later and with Chrome it's pretty impossible :P

But for some reason today that crashed FF and I had to do it in IE :/

kepstin-laptop: Yeah... And it's even Fedora! (The horror, the horror!) :P

it doesn't feel very responsive to me even when I only have a couple of tabs, and when I have more than a few, it is unresponsive

it just took it 26 seconds to switch tabs...

yeah, the one issue with firefox is that it's still single-process, single-threaded

well, not single-threaded completely

but it does mean there are a few blocking things where one tab can slow down others

kepstin-laptop: multi-threading will kill it too on 200 tabs :-/

the single process limitation hits people with large numbers of tabs, since all the tabs have to fit in a single memory space.

I only have 9 tabs open too. I can easily get into the hundreds with opera and really don't want to imagine how bad it would be if I did that in firefox >_<

not an issue in 64bit linux, but 32bit firefox will run out of memory space

on the other hand, the multi-process model like chrome uses has a bit more memory overhead per-process

arg, one of my computers isn't getting a proper full-speed wireless connection.

my laptop? good signal, ~72mbit. This computer 3 feet away? poor signal, 1-2mbit.

... reload the wireless driver and now it has 117mbit and a strong connection.

must be a driver bug :/

What musicbrainz's own search engine can do what solr can't?

Jozo: musicbrainz's own search engine is just apache lucene with some custom indexes.

so i guess it's kind of like solr, except with musicbrainz-specific apis instead of a general interface.

kepstin-laptop: So why maintain own codebase instead using solr?

"Advanced DisMax query parser for high relevancy results from user-entered queries" http://lucene.apache.org/solr/

we're using lucene's dismax search already.

admittedly, musicbrainz searches are still per entity type, and I'd love to see a unified search.

the real issue is that we already have the lucene schema and index updating stuff worked out with the current server, and doing something like switching to solr would mean rewriting all of that, for not all that much benefit, really. Unless there's some solr feature we really want at some point...

hi everyone. weird thing with Picard : wile tagging http://musicbrainz.org/recording/1682cf55-a9a6-..., Picard suggests "Melodic Death Metal" for the genre. Obviously, it is not (see http://youtu.be/RBumgq5yVrA, fine folk song, btw), and MB tags say " alternative, alternative indy folk, folk, indie". Did I miss something ?

I have no idea but the song is nice

mb doesn't have tags, does it?

(yeah, not very melodic death metal)

derwin: well, it does, just not only genre tags

Same here

ah yeah I had recalled it wasn't "genres"

(well, tags sometimes, but to mark stuff I want to fix later)

I believe Picard > Options > Options > Metadata > Folksonomy tags uses tags on MB.

I used to use Lukas' plugin which is supposed to fetch last.fm tags, but it retuurn Melodic Death metal also and i've been suspecting it to be broken fsince Picard's last version.

Maybe Picard just really wants you to go get some melodic death metal

(github downloads that is)

nope, Picard wants me to believ Melodic Death Metal is likeable ;)

good night all

hmm, http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-5606 is still open?

Freso ^

can i get some help of some jap. geek around here?

wasn't me!

ehrgeiz_: what do you need help with?

i added the new shugo tokumaru release "in focus" and it comes with a bonus cd. however i cant find out, whats on this bonus cd: http://shop.tonofon.com/?pid=50725284