#musicbrainz

How do I set two artists for one song?

I saw a number of things on the wiki, from "create a new artist called <artist1> & <artist2>" to "Add the first one as the artist, but name it "<artist1> & <artist2>""

oldtopman: you can do that with artist credits

oldtopman: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_to_Use_Artist_C... describes how you can do that (hopefully those instructions aren't too outdated).

Grooveshark Found Guilty of Massive Copyright Infringement

The general idea is oldtopman for some [artist1]<and>[artist2] situations, you'd create a new artist "artist1 & artist2". If the collaboration is fairly stable, like Simon & Garfunkel.

" The court was presented with piles of evidence that Grooveshark not only knew about infringing content on its site (who wouldn’t), but willfully uploaded infringing content onto its servers and ordered employees to do the same or face penalties. "

Since copyright is magic, I understand this to mean "Grooveshark was found guilty of practicing magic incorrectly"

hey, incorrectly practising magic can be very dangerous.

get nasty explosions, summons from parallel universes, washbasins falling from the sky, etc.

If Grooveshark did those things, then they must pay. Pay a terrible price.

(and they should be forced to pick up all the washbasins and haul them to the dump)

they went all-out in the tagline on the back of the dvd box, "In a world where magic is like computer code... Koyomi still hasn't learned Basic"

hmm. 13 episodes on hulu. is that all there was?

yeah, guess so if WP is correct

ah, but no Ping Pong Club? boo.

recommended? (Modern Magic Made Simple, I mean)

CallerNo6: anidb is authoritative

CallerNo6: use it

anyone seen ruaok around lately? or could anyone give me his email address? i've misplaced it.

he is around, but..

in and out?

CallerNo6: The collaboration isn't really stable at all - the only time I've seen the two together is on the one song.

Still appropiate to make the new artist?

Skud: there's two in https://github.com/mayhem/musicbrainz-server/bl... , both should work.

(er, I probably should've linked to https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... , though it doesn't really matter for this particular question)

Anyone up for helping acomplete MusicBrainz Picard noob?

thanks Musicoligist :)

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oldtopman: no, that's what artist credits are for. You can join multiple existing artists with whatever "join phrase" is appropriate.

If the How_To that warp linked to is confusing (it's a little out of date), I'd be happy to answer questions

erm - guess noob in IRC as well then?

another tragic tabbing accident

really - anyone here with helpful input would be most appreciated

Musicoligist: I might be able to help if it's a simple question. Otherwise, somebody will be along to answer everntually.

Musicoligist: Depends on what you need, but I'm fairly new myself.

fisrt of all whats with the cryptic messages?

don't people come here for help?

is that not the idea?\

CallerNo6: Artist credits = artist tab under "Recording Details"?

Musicoligist: Huh? Just ask!

Musicoligist: it's easy to forget that not everybody is in on every in-joke etc. What's your question?

k - so I have album - lets call it x - x has ten songs but nine are picked up and the other has the little music symbol...... bare with me

the song with the symbol is the right song but it doesnt seem to like the length.....

oldtopman: artist credits (in this context) are a way to show an artist's name as it appears on a specific release, if there's slight variation. It also lets you link multiple artists' names into one credit.

so i have edited the track length in mpTrim to the correct length but it still gets the symbol - how can i fix this?

oldtopman: so I'll walk you through one. go to http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/0b029e80-bf..., lemme know when you're there

Alright, there.

right - so this is the test page - it was down yesterday and I was gonna have a look - anyways - im there

now click the "edit" tab, which will take you to the "release editor" page for that release

erm - im not logged in

Musicoligist: oh, you can follow along if you'd like but this is an answer to oldtopman's question

CallerNo6: Alright, I'm in now.

oldtopman: okay, next to the release artist field there's a button called "edit". (in the how_to it's called ">>" but it's been improved)

click that

how can see ALL the chat in IRC so I'm not rudely interupting?

Musicoligist: Just wait until someone talks to you - usually they'll say your name, and that line of text will be red (like this one).

CallerNo6: Gotcha.

oldtopman: that gives you the interface for editing what MB calls "artist credits". You can do one of two things:

Add a new credit, set the join phrase, and add the new artist?

1: you can change the artist's name as it appears on the release. This would be for minor things like a middle initial or "Jim" vs "James" or something.

Can I save to this album? (it's a test album, right?)

You can save as long as you haven't added a real artist, because it will show up in the real artist's discography.

2. you've already figured out two :-)

CallerNo6: That makes a ton of sense. Thanks for explaining it to me :D

Any time

Okay, Musicologist: you don't actually have to wait until you're addressed. We talk over each other all the time. If there's more than one conversation going on, you can address the person you're speaking with directly.

don't wanna upset any1 with bad etiquette is all

Nah. This isn't that kind of channel :-)

well still...

ummm - do I need to explain my issue again?

fine. if you insist on being polite, I won't try to talk you out of it :-P

k so see previous message

hmm. I don't understand your question (which probably means I'm not the right person to answer it). What "symbol"?

the musical note

one song missing

song 10 stays in unmatched files

appears under title though with the musical note

how to fix?

Is there a way to manually link a song to a musicbrainz id?

I know I do that often enough with beet.

lol - is this still me being spoken to here?

Musicoligist: try dragging your song from the middle pane directly onto the song in the right pane

Musicoligist: Nope, this is me interrupting you with another question of my own.

Musicoligist: Actually, it was. My bad :P

Musicoligist: I was wondering if you could manually set a musicbrainz id to a song - forcing a match, if you will.

drag and drop - ty very very much - and who would have thought htis conversation about such a small issue would be so "interesting"

:)

Musicoligist: do double check that it really /is/ the same song, of course.

gotcha

thanks again <CallerNo6>

Any time. cheers.

noob out

oldtopman: do you mean that you want to manually enter tags?

CallerNo6: No, I thought it was relevant to musicologist's problem. Nevermind.

ah, gotcha

Oh. Shame on me. I used the terms "middle" and "right" pane, when of course that's only in the default layout.

Sorry, world.

ah, that I can kinda answer

edits go into a queue to be voted on. if you get three unanimous votes, your edit will pass or fail. if not, it will pass in 7 days if no=0 or no<yes.

so worst case scenario, 7 days.

in some circumstances, you can come to this channel and ask for votes.

like, "hey, I'm not sure if this is correct... can somebody check it out?"

or, "hey, this edit needs to pass in order to then do this other edit. can somebody help me speed it up?"

Ah, I see.

I'm in no rush to get it approved, but any extra eyes would be appreciated: https://musicbrainz.org/release/69eaf4e2-3b7b-4...

I think this is only my third release or so, so I'm just starting to get the hang of things.

oldtopman: normally we "fix" the capitalization to be consistent with English title case (e.g. 'This Is the TItle of My Thingy').

Exception: we don't "fix" it if it seem intentional. In this case, it seem intentional :-)

what a crazy baseball game

Picard people: http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid...

I imagine what the guy wants to do is already possible somehow but I wouldn't know how :)

I have absolutely no idea what he's asking for

Haha

I *assume* they want to use series titles for release tagging in Picard

(*how* I don't know)

afaik the web service for releases doesn't include series information, so that seems hard to implement

Hmm

I see