#musicbrainz

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      • Tecfan
      • do you reckon this is the same person? i am struggling to find out
      • reosarevok
        I doubt it's a very common name
      • Tecfan
        " For 18 consecutive weeks, his recordings of birdsong were the best-selling album in Brazil."
      • holy shit
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      • Freso
        Tecfan reosarevok: I thought [nature] was supposed to be used for recordings of bird song etc.?
      • Tecfan
      • Freso
        Yeah, that's the one.
      • reosarevok shrugs. That one is not supposed to exist, as per https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Special_Purpose_Artist
      • reosarevok
        (should be an AC for [no artist])
      • Freso
        Ah.
      • Tecfan
        well it is listed there?
      • Subsets of [no artist]
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      • reosarevok
        Yes, it should be an artist credit, not its own artist :)
      • Freso doesn't necessarily agree with that :/
      • CallerNo6
        all the listed subsets have their own mbids
      • (white-listed subsets?)
      • reosarevok
        Yes, they were never merged - but I don't necessarily see a point to a separate "nature sounds" artist
      • So since that suggests [no artist] is perfectly good enough, I went with that
      • Freso
        But with "[nature sounds]" as AC, right?
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      • CallerNo6
        that came up last night. it's hard to see the point of [theatre], which only has a handful of releases (although it's used as a track artist on VAs too)
      • (hard for me, anyway)
      • reosarevok
        Well, "may be useful" and "You can use" :)
      • If you feel it's useful, go for it (I don't)
      • hawke
        CallerNo6: It’s useful on the track artist — better than a bunch of “xxx cast of xxxx production” artists.
      • CallerNo6
        hawke: sure, I wouldn't create those artists. But what about ACs?
      • hawke
        CallerNo6: what about them? it’s not really “unknown” or “anonymous” generally.
      • CallerNo6
        and yet [theatre] is a subset of [unknown]
      • (to the extent that the SPA wiki page means anything)
      • I guess what I'm saying is, what does [theatre] tell you that [unknown] (or VA or whatever) doesn't? the genre?
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      • KRSCuan
        [theatre] is a dump artist for stuff that needs fixing.
      • Same as [Disney]
      • The others are actually legit.
      • CatQuest
        :D
      • CallerNo6 doesn't see how [Disney] is less legit than [christmas]
      • Tecfan
        i went with silver ^^. do you want another challenge? ;D
      • http://imgur.com/shsajLg,61Sf9HO is this: red, black, white, dark gray, pale pinkish/purplish/gray, pale gray, pale green/gray, pale green/gray/pink, grayish blue or blue?
      • CallerNo6
        thinking about SPAs reminded me to add some tags to http://beta.musicbrainz.org/work/04048a1c-a91e-...
      • Freso
        Tecfan: Yes.
      • CallerNo6
        this is why I don't ask Freso what I should do when I grow up
      • Freso
        Psh.
      • nikki
        that special purpose artist guideline is kinda stupid as it is... it was made long before ngs was released, included various controversial things and still doesn't represent how we do things
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      • I don't really see the point of the subsets thing, either we think it's a valid distinction to make and having two separate artists is the best way to do that, or we don't think it's a valid distinction to make so there's no reason to use special artist credits
      • (like I don't get the [soundtrack] one... that seems to just be [unknown] in a release group marked as soundtrack and not something that needs some special artist credit)
      • CallerNo6
        exactly
      • maybe there should only be two SPAs. [fixme] and [wontfix] :-)
      • nikki
        we could just merge all artists in the database and have a single [artist] special purpose artist. that should solve the problem of which artist to use :P
      • CallerNo6
        ah, so only [wontfix]!
      • nikki
        yes!
      • CallerNo6
        even better
      • Freso
        *[won’tfix]
      • Tecfan
        [yes]
      • Freso
        And no, I will not revert that and resubmit as non-autoedit! >:|
      • CallerNo6
        that's the other reason I don't ask Freso what I should be when I grow up
      • who tags artists with "christmas"? I mean, what do they do the rest of the year?
      • nikki
        practice their christmas music ready for christmas
      • CallerNo6
        I guess that's the only way to get really good at it
      • nikki
        to get really good at being really bad at it
      • I mean, you don't want to accidentally make some good christmas music, how would people be able to complain about it if you did!
      • CallerNo6
        haha. one of the artists tagged "christmas" is VA
      • Tecfan was once at an excellent christmas concert
      • CallerNo6 has a soft spot for Carol of the Bells (which until today wasn't tagged "christmas", oddly)
      • Tecfan
        Kitchen Orchestra, contemporary classical music in a christmas mood, in the veins of a contemporary Alamaailman Vasarat
      • hawke
        I have no objection to [theatre] because it is still distinct from [unknown] and [anonymous] — generally you know who the people are or you can find out — that’s not the problem that it’s solving.
      • Tecfan
        followed by horrible indian food.
      • hawke
        It’s solving the problem of having a huge list of artists for a one-off performance.
      • nikki
        also solving the problem that if you do enter a huge list of artists, that's not actually how it's credited on the cover :P
      • hawke
        yes.
      • CallerNo6
        hawke: wouldn't you do an AC, "cast of xxx"?
      • nikki
        (although an artist credit for VA would technically work there)
      • hawke
        CallerNo6: sure, but an AC to what?
      • unknown? anonymous?
      • CallerNo6
        does it matter? the SPAs are nearly meaningless
      • hawke
        I guess VA could work, but that feels kinda weird — well, weirder than [theatre] anyway.
      • CallerNo6
        I mean, at this point we're talking about a snippet of text in the "artist field", not about an MB entity with meaningful relationships.
      • hawke
        That’s true.
      • CallerNo6
        I do agree that [theatre] doesn't seem like a subset of unknown/unknowable.
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      • hlarsen
        hi all, apologies if i missed it, but i couldn't find anywhere on the site that referenced what to do if you want to add english translations to a foreign album. can anyone point me in the right direction?
      • derwin
        you are in the right plae
      • CallerNo6
      • maybe somebody else has a good example of a well-entered "pseudo-release"? I'm blanking.
      • hlarsen
        i think info on using pseudo-releases and linking as a translation is exactly what i needed, thanks!
      • if i run into any further issues or need an example, i'll be back like arnold.
      • CallerNo6
        nice
      • Freso
        I actually think Cherish the Ladies' christmas album is a pretty darn good release.
      • I also like this funk/soul christmas release I bought off the library some weeks ago.
      • CallerNo6 imagines that he'd probably like http://anonymous4.com/discography.php?8
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      • CatQuest
        [20:16] * CallerNo6 has a soft spot for Carol of the Bells (which until today wasn't tagged "christmas", oddly)
      • RARG just reading that name has made it stuck in my head again :PPP
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      • matick
        hi
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I think xps2 is confused http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31117960
      • Mineo
        are we now all supposed to nod or something?
      • and man, aria - I've watched the first episode of aria the animation because a friend really likes it and those were the longest 25 minutes of my life :P
      • kepstin-laptop
        I liked aria tho.
      • i mean, how can you go wrong with a show about undines on a terraformed mars covered in water that also involves some sort of cat king thing with possible supernatural powers? :)
      • (also, it had theme songs by makino yui)
      • CallerNo6
        is it a "musical"?
      • kepstin-laptop
        not really
      • one of the characters happens to sing during the course of the show, i guess.
      • but no, not a musical.
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        it's an audio drama. xps2 thought the word "drama" meant it was a theatrical work
      • he referenced a section in http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Specific_types... that deals with a title
      • xps2
        "A “theatre” release is a recording of a work for the theatre involving music, songs, and/or spoken dialogue, occasionally also including dance."
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        exactly
      • xps2
        Star Wars: The Original Radio Drama
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        that radio drama was never performed on stage
      • xps2
        yes. drama cd is same.
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        ドラマCDは舞台で演奏しません
      • xps2
        ドラマCDもラジオドラマも変わりませんが?
      • simukis_
        Japan? Is that you?