reosarevok shrugs. That one is not supposed to exist, as per https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Special_Purpose_Artist
reosarevok
(should be an AC for [no artist])
Freso
Ah.
Tecfan
well it is listed there?
Subsets of [no artist]
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reosarevok
Yes, it should be an artist credit, not its own artist :)
Freso doesn't necessarily agree with that :/
CallerNo6
all the listed subsets have their own mbids
(white-listed subsets?)
reosarevok
Yes, they were never merged - but I don't necessarily see a point to a separate "nature sounds" artist
So since that suggests [no artist] is perfectly good enough, I went with that
Freso
But with "[nature sounds]" as AC, right?
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CallerNo6
that came up last night. it's hard to see the point of [theatre], which only has a handful of releases (although it's used as a track artist on VAs too)
(hard for me, anyway)
reosarevok
Well, "may be useful" and "You can use" :)
If you feel it's useful, go for it (I don't)
hawke
CallerNo6: It’s useful on the track artist — better than a bunch of “xxx cast of xxxx production” artists.
CallerNo6
hawke: sure, I wouldn't create those artists. But what about ACs?
hawke
CallerNo6: what about them? it’s not really “unknown” or “anonymous” generally.
CallerNo6
and yet [theatre] is a subset of [unknown]
(to the extent that the SPA wiki page means anything)
I guess what I'm saying is, what does [theatre] tell you that [unknown] (or VA or whatever) doesn't? the genre?
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KRSCuan
[theatre] is a dump artist for stuff that needs fixing.
Same as [Disney]
The others are actually legit.
CatQuest
:D
CallerNo6 doesn't see how [Disney] is less legit than [christmas]
Tecfan
i went with silver ^^. do you want another challenge? ;D
http://imgur.com/shsajLg,61Sf9HO is this: red, black, white, dark gray, pale pinkish/purplish/gray, pale gray, pale green/gray, pale green/gray/pink, grayish blue or blue?
this is why I don't ask Freso what I should do when I grow up
Freso
Psh.
nikki
that special purpose artist guideline is kinda stupid as it is... it was made long before ngs was released, included various controversial things and still doesn't represent how we do things
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I don't really see the point of the subsets thing, either we think it's a valid distinction to make and having two separate artists is the best way to do that, or we don't think it's a valid distinction to make so there's no reason to use special artist credits
(like I don't get the [soundtrack] one... that seems to just be [unknown] in a release group marked as soundtrack and not something that needs some special artist credit)
CallerNo6
exactly
maybe there should only be two SPAs. [fixme] and [wontfix] :-)
nikki
we could just merge all artists in the database and have a single [artist] special purpose artist. that should solve the problem of which artist to use :P
CallerNo6
ah, so only [wontfix]!
nikki
yes!
CallerNo6
even better
Freso
*[won’tfix]
Tecfan
[yes]
Freso
And no, I will not revert that and resubmit as non-autoedit! >:|
CallerNo6
that's the other reason I don't ask Freso what I should be when I grow up
who tags artists with "christmas"? I mean, what do they do the rest of the year?
nikki
practice their christmas music ready for christmas
CallerNo6
I guess that's the only way to get really good at it
nikki
to get really good at being really bad at it
I mean, you don't want to accidentally make some good christmas music, how would people be able to complain about it if you did!
CallerNo6
haha. one of the artists tagged "christmas" is VA
Tecfan was once at an excellent christmas concert
CallerNo6 has a soft spot for Carol of the Bells (which until today wasn't tagged "christmas", oddly)
Tecfan
Kitchen Orchestra, contemporary classical music in a christmas mood, in the veins of a contemporary Alamaailman Vasarat
hawke
I have no objection to [theatre] because it is still distinct from [unknown] and [anonymous] — generally you know who the people are or you can find out — that’s not the problem that it’s solving.
Tecfan
followed by horrible indian food.
hawke
It’s solving the problem of having a huge list of artists for a one-off performance.
nikki
also solving the problem that if you do enter a huge list of artists, that's not actually how it's credited on the cover :P
hawke
yes.
CallerNo6
hawke: wouldn't you do an AC, "cast of xxx"?
nikki
(although an artist credit for VA would technically work there)
hawke
CallerNo6: sure, but an AC to what?
unknown? anonymous?
CallerNo6
does it matter? the SPAs are nearly meaningless
hawke
I guess VA could work, but that feels kinda weird — well, weirder than [theatre] anyway.
CallerNo6
I mean, at this point we're talking about a snippet of text in the "artist field", not about an MB entity with meaningful relationships.
hawke
That’s true.
CallerNo6
I do agree that [theatre] doesn't seem like a subset of unknown/unknowable.
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hlarsen
hi all, apologies if i missed it, but i couldn't find anywhere on the site that referenced what to do if you want to add english translations to a foreign album. can anyone point me in the right direction?
and man, aria - I've watched the first episode of aria the animation because a friend really likes it and those were the longest 25 minutes of my life :P
kepstin-laptop
I liked aria tho.
i mean, how can you go wrong with a show about undines on a terraformed mars covered in water that also involves some sort of cat king thing with possible supernatural powers? :)
(also, it had theme songs by makino yui)
CallerNo6
is it a "musical"?
kepstin-laptop
not really
one of the characters happens to sing during the course of the show, i guess.
but no, not a musical.
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hibiscuskazeneko
it's an audio drama. xps2 thought the word "drama" meant it was a theatrical work