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      • VxJasonxV
        very off topic, because I am an opinionated tech preacher; I do believe that those who champion the need for dark themes (1) turn their brightness up WAY TOO BRIGHT or as I call them: the glowing faces, or (2) have a legitimate visual reason for needing a darker theme.
      • That said, I also like dark themes, because I am a night owl.
      • I don't believe I have a legitimate / physical vision-related reason for needing it. I'm also (ideally) not a glowing face. Auto-brightness does its thing, but the base set brightness on my phones tends to be something like 15% or less.
      • on my devices*, and on my phone.
      • Yaniel
        well, what is "way too bright" anyway?
      • white themes are usually thought of in the same way as things printed on white paper
      • but a backlit or emissive screen is about as far from that as you get
      • VxJasonxV
        way too bright is glowing faces
      • anything that leads to eye strain or deterioration
      • and yes, the irony of this is that back in the day, even black was a light source
      • that's different in the LED era, of course.
      • Yaniel
        well, even "LED" screens are just backlit LCD so it's still largely the case
      • but we finally do have some proper emissive OLED screens (and hopefully very soon, microLED so we can stop worrying about burn-in)
      • but with those SDR white is still supposed to be calibrated to the brightness of a white sheet of paper in whatever viewing conditions
      • VxJasonxV
        it's always a light source, because it uses light to draw. It's just better and better as the years go on.
      • Yaniel
        and that is pretty dark all things considered (not helped by the fact that an LCD handles ambient light way worse than paper)
      • VxJasonxV
        My bringing up the CRT thing was mostly to reinforce my own point, that a screen drawing white was a lot harder (on the eyes, on power draw, etc.) than a screen drawing black.
      • and that continues to be the case, more and more dramatically so, as time goes on.
      • Yaniel
        but the bigger problem is that it still isn't paper, you look at a lot of things on a screen that are supposed to be a lot brighter than paper
      • or idk if you do, I know I do
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      • like say, outdoor photos
      • VxJasonxV
        lol
      • I don't know what the last physical media I looked at was that isn't a screen.
      • I mean, I do have paper littered all over my desk, but an analog photo?
      • ┐('~`;)┌
      • Yaniel
        but an analog photo is literally paper
      • VxJasonxV
        I do get your point.
      • Yaniel
        I mean sure we can restrict all our media to the capabilities of dead trees, but we could also make use of the improved capabilities - it just requires also designing stuff in a way that accounts for them
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      • which is basically what all the HDR faff is about, including the part where you get to choose a brightness level for SDR content
      • then you can have all the white UI themes you want while still not burning your eyes and also not losing hope of making out details of other content
      • but it'll take a while before we get that figured out
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      • elomatreb[m]
        I have a release that should be merged into another release, but they have mismatching tracklist lengths (the to-be-merged release was created off an incomplete Bandcamp tracklist). Can I do this somehow without having to first edit the release to have a same-length tracklist?
      • Erin
        are you trying to make a second release in the release group via the merge
      • or make it like, a second disc in the release you already have
      • or are you just saying that the items are literally the same
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      • elomatreb[m]
      • The recordings are already properly linked, and I don't want a new medium or anything
      • Erin
        well
      • one is 19 tracks
      • one is 14
      • are you 100% certain there weren't two releases?
      • although they definitely dont have different dates
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      • ah
      • elomatreb[m]
        Yes, it's a reasonably common thing on Bandcamp
      • Erin
      • there's your 4 releases there
      • elomatreb[m]
        4 releases?
      • Erin
        unless discogs is wrong
      • i suppose they could also have the same incorrectness
      • but they reflect the division we see
      • that is, two releases in france in 2014 with 14 and 19 tracks respectively
      • elomatreb[m]
        The cassette release is irrelevant here, it's just that Bandcamp releases sometimes have tracks that are only visible once you purchase the release
      • well, download, not necessarily purchase
      • Erin
        they actually both look digital
      • one was mp3
      • one was flac
      • and the mp3 one had 5 more songs
      • elomatreb[m]
        Musicbrainz does not do the format-specific tracking Discogs does
      • Erin
        im just trying to figure out
      • is the 19 track one also a bandcamp release?
      • elomatreb[m]
        Yes, sorry. The editor who entered that one linked it in their edit notes, they just didn't add a relationship
      • Actually they did, nevermind that
      • So yes, they are the same thing, added off the same source, just with the (not too uncommon) mistake of only including the visible tracklist
      • Erin
        i can definitely see the logic for merging
      • if they are legitimately the same though
      • elomatreb[m]
        The Bandcamp importer userscript will warn you about these releases, but not everyone uses that
      • Erin
        track times not matching is a case of "someone is definitely wrong"
      • elomatreb[m]
        Where do you see track time mismatches?
      • Erin
        oh its not a mis match
      • its an order
      • i see
      • the bandcamp page lists 14 as machine part 4
      • but the 19 parter has it as 15
      • elomatreb[m]
        oh, I completely missed that
      • Erin
        yeha im not sure what there is to merge
      • looks to me like the 14 parter is just a pure duplicate with incomplete info
      • and probably can just go away
      • elomatreb[m]
        I'll check what the download looks like again
      • Erin
        or rather, whatever the MB procedure is for duplicates
      • anyway, im out for today
      • good luck fixing your thing
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      • CatQuest
        [21:33] <reosarevok> atj: I'd use artwork, but maybe we need to add a "task" like we have for misc <----- !!!THIS!!!
      • [22:26] <Rotab> http://rotabsscreenshots.se/2021-02-23_21_22_25... <-- ohhh but i like that! (and I don't evne use dark-modes)
      • fwiw, if there is an uncomplete "digital" release it's OK to repurpose it to be a different format with those amounts of tracks (if said digital release never excisted with ie 14 tracks, but a cassette one did)
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      • if not, you can add more tracks to he 14 track one, making sure everything is in the right order, and then merge them (you can ask for help with votes to get them through so you cna do the merge edit faster too)
      • elomatreb[m]:
      • hi MajorLurker :D
      • did I talk to you about #bookbrainz lurking too?
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      • atj
        reosarevok: do you want a ticket re: adding the task field to the artwork credit?
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      • reosarevok
        atj: maybe, if you also agree? STYLE :)
      • I do wonder whether old design/illustration rels should be migrated to this
      • Or whether they can just be left to be slowly fixed from the report (https://beta.musicbrainz.org/report/DeprecatedR...)
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      • atj
        reosarevok: yeah I agree. Would the task field be freetext?
      • reosarevok
        I expect so, yeah