#musicbrainz

CatQuest: There is street on google on other maps thats not real

people cite sources when adding data

Jozo: What if your history teacher taught you a wrong year in school? Or if your history text book got a data wrong? (E.g., 2001-11-09 instead if 2001-09-11.)

*date

Jozo: It's still a fact. It's a wrong fact, but that's how these things go.

Freso: You still not se my point

Jozo: A deliberate hoax is a work of fiction, which I already addressed earlier.

[20:55] <Jozo> CatQuest: There is street on google on other maps thats not real what? for real?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright_Ea... for maps

CatQuest: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright_Ea...

whats the difference between thes two links?

CatQuest: Nothing. :)

well in the thing about this place thatsa s treet that's erranous, it is well documented that in fct, this does not exist

it's like those releases that where said to exist, but was never relased

or recorded

CatQuest: BTW you may find some Easter Eggs on your local city map if you see carefully...

well I didn't know about this and it's kinda interesting.. but well

CatQuest: And there are not well documented...

CatQuest: Some of my local town was documented on: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Finland:H%C3... ... but any links not working anymore

CatQuest: And what you think if city about 67000 population has three documented easter eggs... Is it common happit?

I don't really care I'm tying to fix my chroem problem

kepstin-work: HEY! that would be mine yes! :D

\o/

seems to have made it in time to come to germany with me :)

good good

CatQuest: btw, you can compare maps at http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?lon=24.51551&...

Though I don’t see the easter egg any more

Finland on maps and findings easter eggs :)

That reminds me that I HAVE TO map some local buildings.

right now I don't really care enough about maps to care that they are all incorrect and my lifelong devotion to maps as a correct source is invalidated thank you. I am having trouble with this dildos chrome

Im stuck 28 chromium 'cos on 29 scripts do not work any more

CatQuest: Do you have same problem with your dildos?

ok seriously jozo can yo ustop pinging me unlesyou have something spesific to say to me

CatQuest: ok :)

"ok" is not such a thing

CatQuest: Ok

hawke_1: I'm not seeing any easter eags anymore on Hämeenlinna (there still may some)... But Is OpenstreetMap more perfect than Google or Bing? :)

Jozo: It depends on what part of the world you’re in, and how many active mappers there are.

For Germany, probably yes.

hawke_1: And on Hämeenlinna city openstreetmap is much more correct than Google.... but on outsaid.

Yep…

Interesting...

Looks like I may have GPL compliance case coming up.

Btw I wrote a bot to upload cover images from Bandcamp for releases that have BC links and no front cover. Good idea? Bad idea? Thoughts? https://musicbrainz.org/user/intgr_bot/edits/open

hawke_1: (I have mapped some parts on Hämeenlinna and neighborhuud..... So I may incapetable say anything)

intgr: good idea.

intgr: I think that's splendid! I wish we had more bots getting cover art into the CAA system. :)

Freso: What happened last time bot uploaded cover arts?

intgr: thanks!

what I would really like is a vgmdb CAA bot :)

Freso, GPL compliance case?

There are ~2236 VGMdb releases with no art and ~2800 for Bandcamp.

Leftmost: A company refusing to give out the source code to a GPL licencsed program they distribute.

Interesting.

*licensed

I'm currently waiting to hear back on sources for a GPL-licensed font.

flamingspinach: True.

Freso: Do you have any copyrights to the program?

There's a sequal to our Digital Single discussion on http://recochoku.jp/album/30286441/ :(

http://mora.jp/package/43000029/UPCP-1001/ <-- what is this

this digital single has the artwork of the not-yet-released album

intgr, if it's available under the GPL, you don't need to.

the name of the digital single is also the name of the not-yet-released album, but it only has 1 track.

Leftmost: I mean it won't be easy to sue them unless you have any authorship in the program.

There are a few lawyers who specialize in GPL violations, I believe.

intgr: Oh, I'm not going to sue them.

Bradley Kuhn would know what to do.

Now grooving to: Sergey Prokofiev ~ Slektene Montague og Capulet, fra Romeo og Julie (5:37) (from Klassiske Favoritter (disc 3: fra Romantikken og Vår Egen Tid)) (1935)

And there's Harald Welte/gpl-violations.org

But I will be redirecting issues to the copyright holders and inform the FSF.

But they usually work with copyright owners from what I can tell.

Right

Freso: join #faif and ask bkuhn when he's around

hello warp

warp: Cheers. :)

ugh i hate it when the official page of some stuff goes missing, and then the other website is still lniking it (this case is fisher price music)

Does the editor mxm_susan hang here under a different name?

dunno. don't think so

snartal: Nope.

snartal: What's up?

nm, just was going to do an edit on an artist they added... the editor had lots of edits, so thought they might be here.

eeehhhhh

hello CatQuest

Wait.... you can get paid for this stuff???? I'm doing it for Free!!!!!!

phew

snartal: Yeah. No. She reads edit notes, but does not always reply to them. Also, she rarely goes back to fix things (unless take an edit of hers hostage with a "No" vote until it's fixed).

(so many featured artists on this release...)

snartal: exactly what freso said

Thanks Freso, I'll skip the email and just fix it.

:D

Wait.... I can do them wrong and get paid too!!!!! I'd be really good at that!

:/

That's industrial sabotage!

I'm very bad at adding things in a wrong fashion, I think.

:D

that's not holding an edit hostage, that's how you should vote

I usually start with abstain and wait a few days just to be friendly

usually you can talk to people and they will respond. she des not respond unless yo uvote no

No biggie, will just change it, even though I swore off sort name edits :)

I'm happy when someone add new release. But If it adds it twice on two weeks, I'm not so happy

intgr: I used to do that. But like CatQuest says, Susan needs a no vote to respond.

Jozo: What if they add it twice within 10 minutes? :p

(Ie., mxm_susan...)

*E.g.

Right, I agree that's a good tactic if you know this particular editor.

It may more easier to musicmatch and our to delegate that stuff

what?

CatQuest: I can add some releases on every friday than fixin stuff

you don't need to ping me to explain that stuff

+more happily

Next time when Susan adds some finnish release I ask if she can share "add this" list with our

(On my todo list is check all Susan's add releases on Finnish artists..)

edits are now prevented from failing for a couple days after the most recent no-vote, so IMHO that's not really necessary :)

flamingspinach, I think it seems polite.

flamingspinach: I have seen many many bad edits and I said nothing, or voted

I guess, but I'll be leaving a comment saying what's wrong with the edit anyway

that's good always say that in edit notes

maybe if she gets enough she'll start to realise stuff

Of course, but I think a no vote can be a bit strong unless the edit is clearly just wrong. I think it's generally better policy to abstain and leave an edit note, then no vote if they clearly have no intention of fixing it.

I say nothing cos I do not know how say politely

my favorite is when the edit is correct but they got it correct by accident.

then I can vote yes and leave a comment safely :)

How do you get it correct by accident? :-P

by using a record company as the release label

yindesu: He you are... I want your comment on Digital Releases and labels.... (Hjum... I los my question but...)

I haven't seen agreement between auto-editors on the Release Label of digital singles.

I've seen them use imprints which don't appear on the front cover, and I've seen others use record companies

and then we have universal music japan, where record companies trump all non-Universal-owned imprints :)

yindesu: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/201... (If you not read already

sounds like kuno is wrong?

Phonographic Copyright != Release Label whatsoever

https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/fa2d0635-f... itunes links and CD media... open edits

also, iTunes doesn't come up with the phonographic copyright

the string is provided by the record company

more can be found on http://reports.mbsandbox.org/report/61/view (really needs open edits)

and the record company doesn't always provide phonographic copyright. some include non-music copyright (for the artwork or other things) and no mention of phonographic copyright

yindesu: we really need phonographic copyright relation

what we really need is a proper split of Companies from "Release Labels"(defined as Imprints)

+1

yindesu: never! :)

if we had both a "Label"(Imprint) and "Record Company" field ala discogs, there would be no controversy - your choice is either right or wrong

not, "but because this is a digital release, we use phonographic copyright instead of logos"