#musicbrainz

nope, the other one had some weird characters in picard

and you couldn't fix it by editing the other release?

the relase looked fine in mb, right encoding etc. it was only bad in picard

this should be it: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18437550 :)

ok, I've approved the remaining recording artist changes.

thanks a lot

Hm. Should the frontpage of a booklet be "Front+Booklet"?

(Cover art)

sure

if it's part of the booklet and the front cover of the album (like a typical CD), then sure

only put 'Front' on an image that contains *just* the front, tho

e.g. don't use it on a scan that has multiple booklet pages

because otherwise it's confusing :)

ianmcorvidae: If it's "Bastion_CDART_01.jpg" out of _04, that counts too, right? :p

kepstin-work: Sure. ;)

haha

Uhm. I'm just doing it now, but...

On a digital release, isn't it fine to use the filename of the included art as the cover art comment? >_>

No, that's for disambiguation.

Hm. Where do I go to note the filename then?

Since that's kind of lost in the upload...

release annotation, I guess

Also, the filename does disambiguate from similarly looking covers - e.g. scans from the CD release.

Though I guess I should note that it's the filename, and not just write it.

edit note is the other obvious place, also

But you can't see edits per-piece-of-cover art.

sure, but they appear on the listing for the release

which is where any sensible person would look :P

So while right now that's not a problem, I can easily see how in the future that could be tricky.

To wade through a bunch of CA adds/removals/edits for a given release.

sure, but people do that constantly for edit listings generally in order to find that sort of info

Since the displayed image in the edit listing will very closely resemble eachother when they're scaled down.

Still, I can't see why noting the filename (and that it's the filename) isn't a good disambiguation.

Speaking of. The Bastion Steam OST download has both the _01.jpg of the cover, but it also has "cover.jpg".

The cover.jpg is a lower-res than _01, but otherwise the same image (AFAICT).

Should cover.jpg be uploaded/added?

No.

Does anyone know how to get the acoustid of an ogg file and link it to a musicbrainz id?

hmm, if i want to make disambiguation like "R&B singer", is "R&B" correct? or should i decapitalize it as "r&b"? or "R n' B" / "r n' b"?

the disambiguation is user-readable text, just do whatever looks best :)

in English, things like R&B are usually capitalized.

okay, thanks. i will stick with R&B

Why do people ask questions and then leave after 3 minutes?

because they don't want answers.

:(

hawke_: hi

hey bitmap…Just wondering if your “relate works to recordings from a release” userscript is doing something silly like validating every date every time you edit any date…

I noticed that it seems to get slower and slower as I have more and more edit things open.

not that I know of. I'll check it out

I’m just doing a relatively simple thing:, copy-paste a date, backspace to change the day part in the begin date.

and it goes from “quick” down to ”>10s” as i get more edit boxes open.

I'm not noticing any slowdown like that myself

Opening edit boxes one at a time, not “edit all”

by the time I get to the end of the second disc it’s ~4s

(to paste in "2001-04-05" and hit "backspace, 4"

(the backspace-4 is what takes so long)

In Chrome, here.

still not seeing that, so I'm not sure what to profile :/

bitmap* ^^

ow

may i offer the following feature request for picard ? ;p

a gui option to add custom tags to TAG_NAMES

might as well just let people add custom tags in the tag editor again

even better..or let's say crucial :)

s/crucial/vital

bitmap: Good news: I just tried using the javascripting profile feature of Chrome and found that it was a different extension that just happened to interact badly with your script.

bitmap: Is there any reason not to let people add custom tags in the tag editor?

aha :)

bitmap: If you’re curious, the extension was “tactical URL expander” which expands shortened URLs. No idea why that would cause any problems, but there you have it.

hawke_: not really. I think it was removed becuase there was no good UI for it

??

Isn’t it exactly the same as the current 'add tag' interface, but allowing a custom tag name?

yes,that's how it worked in the past-1.0 version

oh, I wanted it to be part of the "add new tag" dialog, but it broke the autocompletion in a very bad way. I don't remember how

I can see it being a problem for some things, given how tag mapping would have to work.

(i.e. the internal Picard tag names don’t match the actual tags used)

well,tag handling changed a bit since 1.0 i think

Which reminds me: It is deeply annoying trying to figure out what tags to preserve when Picard doesn’t show the actual tag name. :-)

now I'm starting to edit recordings and I see six-digit number in 'Length'. trying to save and see 'Not a valid time. Must be in the format MM:SS'

??

(I'm adding Disambiguation)

derr84: Known bug. Try using beta, it works there.

yeah; use beta or convert that number to MM:SS (the number you're seeing is a number of milliseconds)

Sadly it’s not the first time that bug has happened.

I don't convert, just copy/past length and it works)

hi

Now that’s just stupid. :-)

how can I use beta? I don't understand. it's for testing only, isn't it?

derr84: It’s for testing, but it works with the live db

yeah

it's not usually different in many appreciable ways

i have a question about picard, when I save changes made to some files, they dont get saved in the file

except bugs get fixed there first, of course :)

test.mb.org is the one that is different.

murk: What kind of file? What kind of changes?

which file extensions?

mp3 files

are they write protected?

it tries to change the Length and Original Release Date

well,chaning length is not possible i guess

i've seen that come up on a google search but as far as I'm aware they aren't

murk: It can’t change the length

ORD should be though

I’m not sure if ID3 tags allow the original date

that's possible

but on another occasion it tries to change the producer label

which should be allowed

but that does not work either

it worked for the remaining tags?

or not at all ?

murk: See if you’re using id3 v2.3 or id3 v2.4

Some stuff can’t be saved in 2.3

2.3

I think in 0.16 originaldate wasn't saved by default. in 1.0 it is

Try switching to 2.4

and to 1.0^^

That too. bitmap: Wouldn’t it just not show up in the list if it wasn’t going to be saved?

hm, maybe

I'm sorry, change to 1.0 where?

murk: Version 1.0 of Picard.

the most recent one

ah, ye i got that

dled today

but with 2.4 it looks like the Producer Label is completely gone, when i look at the files through the explorer

i mean, erased

well,there is only an record label tag

if that's the same as producer label

murk: Some apps don’t know how to read id3v2.4

err

i just mean like, the publisher

yea record label

does it show the label tag in picard?

yes

i think winamp should support id3v2.4 right?

i hope so

:d

ok so, the original recordlabel of a certain album is

Virgin Records America/Immortal Vinyl Records

picard wants to change it to