#musicbrainz

reading ISRCs in the terminal, some of them are gibberish. Does that mean that even the ones that /look/ legit might also be bad?

CallerNo6: reading ISRCs in general seems to be a process prone to produce errors, regardless of the tool or the drive you use

I'd just submit the ones that look ok and ignore the gibberish ones

Mineo, thanks.

hi all, I was wondering if there is any way of adding the acoustID tag to all the files on my collection using fpcalc directly, so when I load the files into picard, it's already "scanned"

the output from fpcalc is not similar to the tag, so I must be missing something

CallerNo6: mine and jonnyjds look for duplicates, but that's about what you can do automagically. I'm not sure about the windows ones, though

krusty_ar: you could theoretically add the fingerprints from fpcalc to the acoustid_fingerprint tag (i.e. TXXX frame with description "acoustid_fingerprint" for ID3 files)

but why do you want to do that?

CallerNo6: ISRC for windows, prefer using mediatools.exe than isrcsubmit.exe (except if you never have slide down bugs with it with your CD drive)

luks: I'm reorganizing a large collection over a windows share on my linux machine and it takes some seconds to scan, the largest delay is on save tho, it seems it's done on the same thread

CallerNo6: http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid... says mediatools.exe does not produce dupe errors

CallerNo6: http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid... says how to submit mediatools.exe ISRC list

(in one copy paste)

jesus2099: I was playing w/ icedax in linux. A few of the ISRCs are garbled text. But I'll look at the forums. Maybe I'll actually learn something. :-)

CallerNo6: the second link only can be helpfull as it is not platform specific but you can ignore the first link :)

Mineo, CallerNo6: I think cdrdao is one of the more reliable methods, I guess some drives might still be botched, though. Also, the disc may have been mastered that way.

not sure about cdrdao…

jesus2099_: It's been working great with my last two drives, compared to the other Linux-friendly method I used previously (forget what that was, off-hand).

woops actually I don’t remember if I tested it… I tested EAC, Feurio, libdiscid, isrcsubmit ← all slide down bug then Tau Analyser quite OK but not 100% then mediatools always OK because very aggressive method

jacobbrett: I should try it on the CD drive that does dupe errors with all the others then (cdrdao exists on windows)

for the record, what’s cool with mediatools is : //Read upto 10 Seconds of each track to find 2 Successive Identical ISRCs

or never had maybe

Here’s a ticket that could benefit both linux and windows user if i’m correct http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/LIB-11 it would make isrcsubmit less errors

is the person who wrote the "autosave complete albums

around?

encukou

arg. No wonder the ISRCs were giving me troubles. I didn't notice at first. They're tunecore numbers.

cdrdao /did/ do a better job of reading them than icedax did. thanks jacobbrett .

Is there an ETA for .png and multi-files upload support?

the ones that weren't reading correctly had some "/xxx" extensions appended.

GAAH

Shoot me now

Or whoever added that, maybe

reosarevok: needs to learn to RELAX

At least it's just one track

lol

^

Limited user is limited.

_5moufl, well, I assumed it was a newbie, yes

which is why I just fixed it and screamed here, instead of screaming at the user :)

I mean limited as in "special"

heh

Poor him

the plugin api wiki page sucks

ok, here's an interesting problem..some folders, no matter what I do, i get errno13 permission denied trying to save artwork as "folder.jpg" even though all the permissions are wide open and no attributes are set

oh, i think i figured it out...sometimes i really hate windows

also, the picard "lookup in browser" function apparently makes invalid search queries

hmm, a cd release that predates the CD era

function1: picard bugs go here -> http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/

(only for some items... it doesn't like "!!! - Strange Weather, Isn't it?")

mkay

what about the plugin api? any tips? there seems to be no documentation

the only tip I can give is to look at other plugins and ask questions here, because there's indeed no good documentation

oh hai, TheLastProject, you win!

derwin: I was expecting IRC info to be findable on the MusicBrainz homepage, so that's why I didn't find it so easily :P

which band is inconsistent, TheLastProject ?

in what way are they "inconsistent" ?

In the title, "The sun catcher" is written with only a capital "The", but in the song it's "The Sun Catcher"

And, err? x.x

so, there's a rule on that, I think..

I may have just been spending too much time submitting to MusicBrainz though, I still have over 20 open edits

Yeah, figures, let's see if I can find that...

Oh, I broke a few rules it looks like, time to fix that up =/

"guess case" is often a good idae

when the case is not like this :

(ie, clearly artist intent)

I try to use "guess case" as much as I can, but it seems to not go by the Wiki page =/

Then again, maybe I expect sentences too often when they aren't a sentence

I think it needs to have actual punctuation for that, doesn't it?

TheLastProject: I stress that you should manually verify all changes after "guess-casing" a release--I waste a fair amount of time cleaning things up, like the 2(c) examples.

jacobbrett: Quite understandable, and I try to do so, but I'm somewhat confused by the rules right now and unsure how to write things =/

Like, for example, a song named "Prelude to The Sun Catcher" should be written as "Prelude to the Sun Catcher" on MusicBrainz even though "The Sun Catcher" is a name and writing it like that would conflict with normal English grammar? x.x

Just post your questions here as you come across things, hopefully someone will help shortly

Hmm, I'm actually not sure about that myself, of all things.

If it's a prelude to "The Sun Catcher", I'd use The there

Okay, in that case I will write "The Sun Catcher" that way, it seems most logical anyway. Thanks for your replies, everyone.

We're pretty inconsistent, though, with "The Best of the xxx" vs "The Best of The xxx"

Well, that seems pretty straightforward...

What gets me is "X and the Y" vs "X & The Y"--that's how I usually see the two forms, anyway

"The Best of the 90s" but "The Best of The Who"

I agree. I'm just looking at releases, and we're pretty inconsistent.

CallerNo6: plenty of people disagree with common sense :p

(also, I bet guess case makes it "the")

reosarevok: Guess Case does make it "the", yes :P

Yeah, it's meh-able sometimes :(

Guess case is so convenient that people often don't bother to check it makes sense/follows guidelines. :(

ok, here is a really silly question, just to make sure my mind is thinking properly about how this works....if I save this album right now http://i47.tinypic.com/67oc42.jpg picard puts the tags from the album it thinks this is into all these files, right? not just the dark green?

I try to, but I didn't understand it :(

jacobbrett: so, "Peter Frampton and The Bee Gees" but "Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars" I guess.

How do you make the distinction?

One is a "band". The other is a collab.

reosarevok: many thanks for fixing that 3 releases!

Hmm, I'm still not sure if that's correct...shouldn't a group of people who'd supposedly be referred to with a "The" prefix also always be capitalised?

"Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds"?

culinko, np :)

Okay, 29 open edits, I'll stop "fixing" for today so I don't put too much of an unnecessary burden on those that have to check all of that =/

reosarevok: too bad i found some more stuff :S

:p

well, not so many though

jacobbrett: I could see it working that way. But then is it "The Mamas and The Papas"?

Why not? I'm genuinely asking for concrete logic. :P

to me it would all just depend on if "The" was in the band's name or if it's just someone using "the" to describe a band that doesn't

reosarevok: i just found out there is slovak name for our quartet and also an english

Merge into Slovak

jacobbrett: At gut level, I prefer "The" too. I'm just trying to guess at other peoples' logics.

reosarevok: well i don't want to do any harm, could you please do it? i can help you with some research:)

heh

I mean, if it's the same artist, it's the same artist

But sure, as you wish

Where does one find a professor of English?

your local uni.

"hello, 1 professor please"

or at monster truck ralleys?

Can I take one home and make it fix the guidelines?

reosarevok: they have also some bad credited releases/maybe even duplicates. but i just randomly found out and this is be the last classical thing i want you to fix, i promise!:) http://musicbrainz.org/search?query=moyzes&... and http://musicbrainz.org/search?query=moyzes&... could have some fixing :S

they don't like being called its!

a professor is for life, not just for christmas

lmao

Can I take one home and make they fix the guideline?

if you promise to take care of them afterwards

How long and essay should capitalization standard english be?

Ever-evolving?

a living document!

CallerNo6: I guess that's pretty much the risk, once you start making that bigger it'll only keep growing :P

ugh, speaking of uni's… today's the first day of classes here