#musicbrainz

there isn't much space to move it into :(

But still

also i don't have time, where i am i going to sleep either?

besides they "recommend blankets and locking away your valuabels"

also i have on key to give them for the week i ma way at the summit

no key*

I like how much they trust the workers :p

lol yea

i just don't have time for this

and i secretly am full of self loading for how my place looks and will think that they think bad of me

even if everyone keeps saying that "my place looks way worse lols"

looking through the window at my neighbours, it sooo isn't true

all their rooms are white and shining bright and there's hardly any mess anywhere :///

and i look all over my place and i just ....

i wanna clear up and tidy but i just don't have energy and

heh

i need to stop talking here and start on the walls

in the bedroom

Nothing wrong with a bit of a mess

Shining bright rooms are kinda boring

hoeflly i can actually get to the paining part after the week end

:)

reosarevok: YEA i happen to think so! but i still feel this irrational shame

I wish there would be an "import track-list"-button for an existing CD in the tracklist-editor of the release-submission-system. One that let's you take an entry from freedb directly to the already existing cd that the discID is applied to.

like "all these minimalist hipsters are gonna look down at me"

I can do this by choosing "Add disc", but then the discID get losts

it makes me imparrased

embarrassed

and i need to apply it later again. or i have to copy over all titles and artists manually

Lomaxx: yeah, it's annoying - there's a ticket for that, but limited developer time and loads of stuff to improve :(

call me up later ok reo, lol

For now I'd generally recommend using freeDB and then adding the disc ID, because it takes less time, but yeah :(

Heh, useful review on Amazon: "I LOVE brahms! He is my Favorite composer ever! It is the best CD ever! It has all his hungarian dances! I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really think you should buy this CD!"

reosarevok, well if it's a ticket already, then I have some hope for the future at least. ;) thanks for the info

but.. my cats are darling

and i've put up a bird-food fattball outside of my window. the little birds are on it and it cheers me up while i work

<3

reosarevok: that sounds like your typical noobfan of your typical pop/rock/whateverband

that's actually kinda cool

:)

brahms is still "in"

:D

:)

Someone give me a random artist MBID?

8ec33fe2-4775-474c-a4a8-65dbbb98f87c

\o/

Freso: oh, what are you working on?

Freso: What did I just do? :)

kepstin-work: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBottle / #musicbottle

http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/mb... is kind of boring :)

adhawkins: You gave me another test entry than the one I've been using so far.

Oh ok :)

Care to share the results? :)

hmm. python, eh?

right, this weekend i'll spend some time poking at that.

adhawkins: As I said, I'll push it to GitHub in sec.

adhawkins: Nothing fancy so far though.

This is the very, very first code to do something.

Well, pushing to github means I'd have to clone and get it working.

However, if you already have it... :)

adhawkins: I have it running locally.

Ah, but not accessable remotely?

adhawkins: Nope.

Oh well.

Yep. :)

I'll talk to ianmcorvidae about putting it on rika later.

hmm. CallerNo6 is an old-time trekkie, eh? I guess you should use a name from TOS ;)

yikes, git submodules :)

usually better to use some sort of bundling/dependency tool rather than submodules if you can :/

kepstin-work: I know.

virtualenv is not that hard to use

kepstin-work: However, it's temporary, and it isn't available on PyPI.

kepstin-work: Flask and all the other dependencies aren't submodules.

strictly speaking, you are probably breaking GPL3 by using pymo :)

Argh IA ffs

luks: How so?

I'd bet at least one of the included modules is not compatible with gpl3

Flask and most Flask-stuff is BSD/MIT style licensed. MusicBottle itself is GPL 2+.

Freso: you'd better add license headers and a license file then; because currently the MusicBottle code is effectively all-rights-reserved and unredistributable.

7me shrugs

Don't use it then.

kepstin-work: Technically, I own all copyright to the code, so I can do whatever I want with it.

kepstin-work: Including redistributing it.

License headers and such will all be added in due time.

Freso: yes, but you haven't given anyone else permission to do anything with it other than implicit permissions to look at the code and for github to redistribute it.

kepstin-work: So don't do anything with it, if you're afraid I will sue you. :)

kepstin-work: If you encounter any legal trouble, https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBottle now says "is GPL v2+" instead of "will be GPL 2+". Not as good as what you want, but should be enough to show intent. ;)

heh

(Well, the chatlog should also do, I guess.)

gpl 2... +?

derwin: the exact wording normally used for that is "This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 2 of the license or (at your option) any later version"

you see why people normally shorten that by saying "GPL-2+" ;)

I don't really understand that

luks: am I right in thinking you did some work with a ppa for musicbrainz-server at some point?

the GPL becomes more restrictive as time passes

so what meaning does 2+ have?

"use this permissive version.. or a more restrictive version" does not parse for me

luks: because we/i are looking at using chef for provisioning servers, and I want everything to come from debs, where possible

derwin: the main benefit to 2+ is that if you want to combine the code with some other code that is e.g. GPL3, then you can convert the GPL 2 code to GPL3.

kepstin-work: right.. yeah.. still not really getting it.

you cannot link code that is GPL2 with code that is GPL3; the licenses are incompatible.

but then, I don't really approve of GPL3

this is mainly forwards-protection against other people choosing to use the GPL 3 license.

and (at your option) any later version

is also weird.

is the Affero GPL "later" than GPL2 ?

what does "later" mean?

later means high-numbered versions of the same license

derwin: no, the AGPL is a different license from the GPL

s/high/higher/

that says that you can pick any license named "GNU General Public License" with a version number that is at least 2.

right, but you could see why people would think it is "GPL2 with one more clause"

it's a multiple alternative licensing scheme, not a combined licensing scheme

not really

oh, affero is actually a modified GPL3, lol.

there's an older affero license too

kepstin-work: to me this pretty much proves the point that GPLv3 confuses an already confusing landscape.

hey derwin, did you go to the IA last night?

Freso: 8cb3dcc5-677c-4144-be47-4dab525443b4

derwin: the first answer to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1978511/is-t... has a nice compatibility chart.

CatCat: :(

* :)

the real solution to all the issues is to just use the WTFPL, of course.

compatible with every license :)

Freso: so couød you use hat or not? :/

erh could

CatCat: I'd already gotten an MBID, so I didn't need more. But thanks. :)

Freso: /me would like to see it wit th that thoguh

it's not as "boring"

uh yea note to self /me does' t ff work in the middle of sentence

:p

once the code is GPLv2, it's GPLv2 forever, as a version of it which is gplv2 exists?

ocharles: that was a very long time ago and I packaged only the perl deps

ocharles: and the repo was missing some of new deps a few days after I finished it :)

derwin: As long as someone has retrieved a copy of the code under the GPL v2 license, they're free to distribute it further under that license.

right, which is why the statement that it can be re-licensed seems non-sensical. once it is re-licensed, it is not the same code.

derwin: Yes and no.

derwin: If I own the copyright to the code, I can stop distributing it under the terms I used to (e.g. GPL).

derwin: That doesn't stop anyone who'd already gotten the code under that license from utilising the license, but it means that noone new will get the code licensed by me.