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ok :)

but for now I'm only adding it to artists that are also in my subscriptions

so that I can a) watch over the edits b) get notified if the script needs to be adapted, before running it on the whole DB

I hate how the ASIN links look like right now :-(

oh?

yeah, me too

I know it's the right thing to do, but still, so ugly

it bugs me because amazon.co.uk is just a redirect to www.amazon.co.uk :/

hmm, does MB also get money for just visitors?

or only if you buy stuff?

If you buy

(but it doesn't have to be the actual album, IIRC)

(if you enter Amazon through MB and you go and buy a boardgame, I think we get it too)

yeah

ok, then maybe I will write me a userscript that displays ASIN like before… and will enter amazon through an MB link whenever I buy stuff :-)

if it worked, there should be a spike in the amount we got from germany recently >:D

hehe

Hmm

Is there any reason why we don't show total length for releases anywhere?

I've wondered that

yes, it would have been useful to me quite often!

ticket, ticket!!

Fiiine

we show it for disc ids...

darn

Per medium, or per release? :)

(I can see uses for both=

right now we show track counts per-medium, I'd say lengths should likely mirror that

oh, maybe that's why - before we used to show the disc ids and their lengths under the tracklist

except for huge box sets, people can do the math in their head anyway

(for an approximate number)

http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4382 then

voted!

hum, I have a track description and it say "someone: keys" what is keys ? keyboard ?

Usually, I think so

But without knowing more, I can't tell :)

If the track has keyboards, and nobody else is credited for them, then yeah :p

yeah, it has

hrglgrmpf: could you cross check both normaised catalogue number ABCD-1234 (replace spaces by - and remove traling -X, ~X and /X in ABCD-1234-X, ABCD-1234~X or ABCD-1234/X etc.) and EAN (JAN) for amazon.jp ? If possible ?

jesus2099: uh, what exactly? I'm not used to editing Japanese...

are you auto-linking jpn ASIN ?

if so, maybe 1. don’t link when no pics

and 2. do the catalogue search cross check

I'm only linking ASINs if they have cover :-)

catalogues numbers are searchable in amazonjp

cool :)

ok, good to know

I think I used that sometime ago

they also return them in the xml now

well. sometimes

I currently only do amazon.{co.uk,de,fr,it}, because somehow my amazon key lets me only access those sites :-(

but when I'm finished with those and have this problem solved, I will go for co.jp as well

okette

so, but what should be done if JAN matches, but catalog number doesn't?

amazon france also finds catnums generally if you remove all non [0-9] characters

hrglgrmpf: tell me! :D

I thought that would come :-)

catnum.replace(/[^0-9]/g, "")

well, I can write them in a special SQL table, and paste them to a wiki once I'm finished

for those 123 456-7 ones but maybe don’t care, it’s not as well standardised as in jpn

if you've normalised the catalogue numbers ok, I would expect it to mean someone's got the barcode from one release and the catalogue number from another which would need manual fixing

yes :-/

sadly that is true for many releases

hrglgrmpf: thus the cross check would be nice for jpn releases, it works in 95% cases

jesus2099: will do, thanks!

'cause I know I have one for matching oricon and vgmdb info to mb's mess :P

I don't add ASINs if either the ASIN is already in the DB or the barcode appears on another release

something like replace(/^([0-9a-z]+)[- ]{1}([0-9]+).*$/, $1-$2)

because especially for popular artists (e.g. The Who) there are sooo many similar re-releases, and adding ASINs doesn't decrease the mess

something like replace(/^([0-9a-z]+)[- ]{1}([0-9]+).*$/i, $1-$2)

jesus2099: thx, I will write it down

hrglgrmpf: very good, your mutliple tests already :)

I currently only test for barcode and similar release name

the format/label/date gets written in the edit note, but isn't checked

it's just too unreliable on the amazon side

but if it's in the edit note, it helps voting

jesus2099: thanks :-)

something like replace(/^([0-9a-z]+)[- ]{1}([0-9]+)[^0-9].*$/i, $1-$2)

sorry it seems better ↗ yes yes ok no problem :)

no it’s wrong again, I let you do it if you want ;)

I will test it anyway if I start linking ;-)

you don't need {1} in there

maybe I register a new amazon account in japan

and that doesn't catch ones like ABCD1234

my last attempt (probably not ok but anyway) ^([0-9a-z]+)[- ]([0-9]+)[^0-9]?

nikki: oh that’s too crappy catnum but yeah, it’s like this on HMV indeed :D

and also printed like that on some sony releases :/

nikki: if you find yours back don’t hesitate to give it to us, then :)

your regex

hmm, do we link pseudo-releases to ASINs?

hey nikki did you get this great opera search I “sent you”, btw ? http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid...

hrglgrmpf: I wouldn’t

not by a bot, at least

nikki: erh sorry, this →

I type « oc mycatnum » and get direct on ongakunomori’s release page with recordings and works links

hrglgrmpf: IMO they shouldn't have barcodes anyway :p

yes, I saw it

reosarevok: hehe, I know :-)

nikki: héhé, I like it a lot myself

people seem to add asins a lot to get cover art

Opera is so great

nikki: yet one more thing Picard should get from th eoriginal :p

*the original even

reosarevok: sure, but until then, it's something people want and we can't provide any other way :P

Someone go fix Picard

hrglgrmpf: aha, found one that works. when the japanese one returns the catalogue number, it's called SeikodoProductCode

possibly even better is a schema change to have the server actually understand trans(liter)ation of tracklists :P

:-)

nikki: we found it out exactly at the same time it seems :-)

now I skip the name check if SeikodoProductCode is found

I should have just checked my own code XD

ianmcorvidae: I think that might be overcomplicated compared with pseudoreleases, tbh - we just should limit them much more

so, is just stripping every non-alphanumeric character and uppercasing enough for matching the SeikodoProductCode?

I mean, a pseudorelease that allows just the release name and tracklisting to be set, nothing else changed

ianmcorvidae: I mean, a pseudo is a tracklist, with transl(iter)ated titles and ACs, language and script

is exactly what I'm talking about, just shoehorning it into our system :P

I would just block adding the rest of the stuff

it'll be in the form ABCD-1234, so don't remove the hyphen in the middle :P

but I can't RFC for it until someone makes Picard do something useful with trans(lit) relationships

yeah, I mean, that's fundamentally the same except it still requires editors and users to know what a pseudorelease is

versus the pretty straightforward "oh this is a translated version"

probably your option is the short-term thing to do though

to pressure the devs into doing it right :P

nikki: but maybe it's not in this form on the MB side?

I think it's by far the simplest and most practical way of doing it in the background

I just don't think the current foreground should be the foreground :p

hrglgrmpf: that's what jesus2099's regexes were for :)

nikki: I know :-). But instead of complicated regexes, isn't it sufficient to compare them by stripping all non-alphanumeric characters?

no

I mean, can it ever fail?

because in mb we might have ABCD-1234~5, which is actually a range of catalogue numbers