#musicbrainz

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      • lantizia eats at desk
      • lantizia
        nikki, i'm having oatcakes filled with chilli cheese :P it's weird but nice
      • nikki
        hehe
      • lantizia
        anyone know if google play music uses musicbrainz to match albums?
      • function1
        can i get some input on this edit? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19713665
      • ijabz
        lantizia: i doubt it
      • but if you improve your metdata first using a tagger it will make use of that
      • lantizia
        ijabz, I'm aware... but what I'd love to know is which music it's 'matching' and which it's 'uploading'
      • just seems to upload it all to me... only really wanna keep online the stuff it already had a copy of
      • MissDee
        hmmm, times on the CD cover differ fromt he actual track lengths
      • by as much as 20s in one case
      • kepstin-laptop
        lantizia: presumably their 'matching' is done my some sort of proprietary fingerprinting algorithm against files provided by record labels.
      • function1
        how can i see when someone has commented or voted on one of my edits?
      • kepstin-laptop
        function1: it should send you an email
      • (except for yes votes)
      • lantizia
        kepstin-laptop, i've read it can match even files that were ogg vorbis... but if you download them off again they're an mp3 :S
      • function1
        kepstin-laptop: probably turned that off some time ago
      • meh
      • kepstin-laptop
        function1: please turn it back on
      • function1: it's rude to not be able to respond to comments or no votes :)
      • function1
        i could see the no votes from the stats, otherwise i saw some from the long list, though there may be others...
      • kepstin-laptop
        it might be possible to use the edit search to find no-voted edits
      • function1
        turned on
      • kepstin-laptop
        not sure about comments.
      • function1
        seems i only get votes for the sensitive things like merge recordings
      • kepstin-laptop
        yeah, you'll find that most stuff really just will pass in 2 weeks without votes :/
      • ijabz
      • seems to just be saying Google will use improved metadata created after running tuneup or is it actually storing/.comparing grace note fingerprints
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      • Freso wishes there was someone to yell at when CAA uploading is down :/
      • Freso
        Is "대박사건" Korean for "No Mercy"?
      • kepstin-laptop
        google translate gives the impression that it means something like "big event" or "important incident" or whatnot.
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      • hawke_
        Anybody know why this recording is orange but has no open edits? http://musicbrainz.org/recording/c31d7df1-3c13-...
      • kepstin-laptop sees a merge recording edit
      • kepstin-laptop
        ... by you.
      • nikki too
      • hawke_
        Wait, so that link actually shows some open edits for you guys?
      • kepstin-laptop
        yes.
      • hawke_
        wtf
      • it's empty for me
      • Lotheric sees the merge recording edit as well
      • *sigh*.
      • hawke_ plays "guess which extension is screwing things up"
      • aha ... mb. POWER VOTE + "check all votes" (old version of power vote) = screwed up
      • renaming userscripts = bad. :-/
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      • lantizia
        hey do i need special approval to do some massive editing?
      • kepstin-laptop
        no, but keep in mind that unless people vote or approve your edits, it can take 2 weeks before they apply
      • lantizia
        there is like a 48 disc set of classical music that my mum likes and musicbrainz only knows about half of it - and even then it's input in all sorts of different styles
      • probably because they're all listed seperately
      • kepstin-laptop
        make sure you don't edit the same thing multiple times within 2 weeks, or you can have conflicts.
      • lantizia
        that sounds like too much work
      • i don't mind fixing it - but to wait 2 weeks to see the end result!?
      • hawke_
        yeah, it sucks
      • you can ask people to vote on or approve it.
      • 3 yes will apply the change immediately.
      • lantizia
        the number of minor edits i'll be making - you'll be flooded with links in this chan lol
      • hawke_
        just link to the edit search
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      • _5moufl
        or just her open edits url
      • his*
      • lantizia
        ok well my first question is... to my knowledge there were 48 discs in the "In Classical Mood" series... none of them are numbered (i.e. no Volume 1, 2,3, etc)
      • but theres over 20 in the database that do have volume numbers... yet all 48 disc cases on the rear have a serial number that counts from 1 up to 48 on each disc
      • but the volume numbers in the database don't match those serial numbers! GAH!
      • and then theres stuff in the database that are clearly "In Classical Mood" discs but don't say so.. and don't also have a volume number
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      • I feel like preparing the whole lot in excel or something myself manually - and uploading that scrapping whatever was there
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      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: Do you know if there’s a ticket about the release editor applying all difference instead of just changes?
      • reosarevok
        No idea
      • I mean, I like that the option is there to apply all differences (people forget to apply their changes relatively often :/ ) but I would also like an option to only apply what's changed, yeah...
      • hawke_1
        I don’t know of any other way to apply durations only other than editing every recording
      • which is of course a giant pain
      • nikki
        I seem to recall a ticket about that
      • hawke_1
        Though MBS-2021 may address that
      • nikki
      • hawke_1
        MBS-5130 actually
      • hawke_1 votes
      • nikki
        hm. I don't understand what the difference between those two is
      • hawke_1
        Me neither
      • 5129 is kind of unclear
      • Freso
      • nikki
        oh well. I need to buy some food.
      • Freso
        hawke_1: There's also a ticket about being able to select which edits to apply on the final page of the release editor.
      • hawke_1
        Freso: Yeah, that would be nice too — but it wouldn’t help here because the duration change and the track title change and the artist change are all the same edit
      • Freso
        hawke_1: Yeah, sure.
      • hawke_1
        *recording title change
      • Freso
        hawke_1: But then you could choose not to do that edit and open up the recording and edit it "manually".
      • reosarevok
        Well, that only helps when there is only one or two recording edits you don't want to apply
      • And anyway, in that case you could just go back to the recordings tab and select all except that...
      • The problem is when you only want to change, well, what you've changed, for a 10 or 20 track release
      • Freso
        reosarevok: Sure.
      • Or 99.
      • hawke_1
        Why stop there? :-p
      • Freso
        Or n!
      • hawke_1
        I love the “What measure is a man?” debate going on in -style, about vocaloid vs. synthesizer.
      • “Well, if you credit the vocaloid artist, I should credit the synthesizer!” “…k, fine by me!”
      • Lotheric
      • reosarevok
        Quick!
      • All go vote No!
      • Lotheric
        haha
      • there should be a bot to vote no at the last minute and then change its vote right before the ending for a dramatic finish :P
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      • lantizia
      • OK I've got that lot to get through... 48 discs worth - all individually listed on MB... only some are missing and the ones that are not are wholely named badly
      • what the most efficient way I can get this data in without all the waiting? :D
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      • (warning that .jpg is _BIG_)
      • Freso
        ...
      • 1200x... *28800* pixels??
      • WTF?!?
      • lantizia
        :D
      • Freso
        Sheesh.
      • Young folks now a days. Wasting away the pixels. D:
      • lantizia
        I used imagemagick to stich em all together - saves me from opening up each file if I can just scroll through
      • Freso
        Using "magick" too. Tsk.
      • lantizia
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      • Freso
        lantizia: LOL. I know. XD
      • Freso is a big time user of `convert`
      • lantizia
        So the question was... the most efficient way of putting this stuff into MB?
      • Can I just make 48 new albums the way they're printed on the covers... and then IF mb has duplicates merge them into mine?
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      • Freso
        lantizia: You shouldn't merge them into yours if they were also released on their own though.
      • But otherwise, I'd say yes, just make yours.
      • lantizia
        I don't know if they were or not - all I know is they are a set of 48
      • Freso
        And we can merge away later of necessary.
      • lantizia
        and mb doesn't have all 48
      • reosarevok
        Oh god classical
      • Fun
      • Freso
        Yep.
      • reosarevok
        lantizia: can you give me some examples of the ones in MB?
      • lantizia
      • reosarevok
        Oh, so they're already in as this collection
      • lantizia
      • top result on that - which is also a 'in classical mood'
      • some of those 48 are missing
      • reosarevok
        "In Classical Mood is a set of music CDs with accompanying liner-notes in hardcover book format. There are approximately 60 books (each with it's own CD) to the series"
      • lantizia
        "approx"
      • reosarevok
        Well, discogs has a #52
      • So it must go over 48 :)
      • lantizia
        above 48 seems to be opera related ones
      • i think they were done much much later, not a part of the original set
      • and anyway - they're not really numbered! the only number is the end 2 digits of the serial code