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      • Leftmost
        Anyone interested in a brief discussion of audiobook style? The conversation seems effectively dead and I'd at least like to get some guidelines for a couple I'd like to enter.
      • knitus
        i'm new to the conversation, but should an audiobook really be part of mb? (i'm sure that's been mentioned before.)
      • Leftmost
        I believe it's been discussed, and for now the answer is "Yes".
      • knitus
        i guess it just depends how broad MB needs to be. i don't know if mb does it already, but seems like that would include speeches, news reports, radio shows, etc..
      • Leftmost
        Well, part of the argument for audiobooks I think is that they're released in a manner similar to music, and on similar media. Not that that makes them part of the intended scope, but it does mean that they also can be ripped and need tagging and so, for convenience's sake, they're included.
      • knitus
        and you can't really say "just anything with an ISAN number" because that would eliminate bootlegs.
      • well it would be convenient to add movies too ;)
      • sorry, devil's advocate
      • Leftmost
        Anyhow, this isn't intended to be a discussion of how appropriate they are. The database already allows for them. I just want to figure out how to enter them.
      • knitus
        oh, i didn't know it allowed them
      • ....and i can't really help with naming, so i'll step out of the convo :)
      • Leftmost
        Under secondary types for release groups.
      • Lotheric
        There's a discussion (about audiobooks) here: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/Audiob...
      • Leftmost
        Right, but it's from a few years ago.
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      • ehrgeiz
        the guideline is: there is no guideline. just enter them how you like them to be
      • that was when i last checked
      • derwin
        yeah, they are allowed
      • and I think nobody is really taking the lead
      • Leftmost: you're the "audiobooks editor" now!
      • ehrgeiz
        i guess most important for audiobook listner is that they are correctly ordered even with crappy playback equipement in cars
      • derwin
        yeah.
      • ehrgeiz
        so they most likely have some numbering added, thats what i came across most of the time
      • Leftmost
        ehrgeiz, I know there's no existing guideline. The point is I'd like to work to find some.
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      • kepstin
        hmm. looks like the weekend archive.org failure has begun :/
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      • ehrgeiz
        Leftmost: sorry, i have no real opinion about this topic.
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      • kepstin
        it's almost like archive.org doesn't want my awesome cover art data :/
      • Leftmost
        What jerks. You should shake your fist at them.
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      • kepstin
        they're still getting 0.02 successful musicbrainz cover uploads per second :)
      • but compared to 0.17 slowdown errors per second, that's not good odds.
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      • jacobbrett
        Are we (unofficially) not supposed to apply sort name style to Romanised Japanese names? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19598047
      • nikki
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      • kepstin
        jacobbrett: that's what I do, I haven't seen any issues with that.
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      • http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/mb... - whee, now with wikipedia summaries.
      • derwin
      • no workie?
      • ( b10bbbfc-cf9e-42e0-be17-e2c3e1d2600d is the beatles)
      • kepstin: ^^
      • kepstin
        derwin: works now
      • kepstin is still poking at stuff.
      • derwin
        ah, I see.
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      • kepstin
        it has release group wikipedia descriptions now too :)
      • derwin
        hrm, no link to the wikipedia page
      • kepstin
        it's there. just very small
      • it's the text 'Wikipedia' in the little attribution thing below the text.
      • derwin
        oh I see
      • I figured that'd be a link to the main wiki page.
      • kepstin
        yeah, well :)
      • kepstin needs to figure out a way to present url relations in general.
      • hmm. I wonder if I should try to include a 'nominal' tracklist on the release group page.
      • kepstin needs a 'no cover art' image, as well :)
      • while I'm at it, I should support using localized aliases and localized wikipedia pages where available...
      • and fix the issue where it only loads the first 100 release groups for an artist :)
      • or maybe just make my release page not suck.
      • hmm. deals poorly with the case of an entity having multiple wikipedia page links
      • just picks one at random
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      • kepstin has 2 more files to upload to https://musicbrainz.org/release/f43a4aa1-71ac-4b7d-bf44-799319282087/cover-art but archive.org just isn't taking them.
      • guess I try again tomorrow.
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      • omgyja
        if youre free feel free import brq 066 - brq 086 http://www.discogs.com/label/Broque thanks :)
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      • Axio`
        Hi, I want to merge two releases into a new one without deleting the old releases. Basically I want to add a set with Release1+Release2 that isn't in MB and both individual releases are in MB. What is the best way to do that?
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      • warp
        Axio`: you will have to add a new release
      • Axio`
        warp: I know that!
      • warp
        Axio`: on the tracklist tab, click "Add Disc", and you can there search for existing releases and chose a disc to copy into the new release.
      • Axio`
        I missed that, I am going to try
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      • warp: thanks it worked
      • warp
        great :)
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