#musicbrainz

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      • Naed
        oh ?
      • brb will look for that :)
      • VxJasonxV
        yeah, basically what happens is it will still be presented as such on the right pane of picard
      • but it will not save the text into the release title, so all your songs will be stacked in the same folder when saved, and instead only the disc number tags will be filled in the file metadata itself
      • Naed
        exactly
      • VxJasonxV
      • Naed
        that is just what i need :D
      • VxJasonxV
        very first one
      • any other questions?
      • Naed
        2sec, just testing :)
      • VxJasonxV
        sure sure
      • I'll be around, not necessarily with the IRC window in the foreground.
      • Naed
        thank you very very much :)
      • i have no idea why that plugin didnt work for me the first time around thou
      • i downloaded it like 4-5 hours ago and tried it
      • oh well :)
      • it works perfectly now :)
      • VxJasonxV
        had you restarted after putting it in, AND checked it after relaunching picard? (ugh, I hate that these scripts aren't on by default)
      • restarted -> picard
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      • Naed
        aye, i did, but i was playing around with a truckload of a script at the time, so something might have cancelled the other ... dont know if that is even possible :)
      • but what is most important is that it works now :D
      • VxJasonxV
        it is, scripts can conflict, and (IIRC) you may never know about it
      • manual namspacing is mean.
      • but, glad it worked :)
      • Naed
        indeed :)
      • a small question for you
      • is there a way to script it so that, if piccard doesnt find any track or anything it can use, that it defaults to the actual filename for the tag info ?
      • VxJasonxV
        nope. Picard was designed to use the web services.
      • Naed
        okies, i thought as much, but it cant hurt to ask )
      • :)
      • VxJasonxV
        I use a two tiered approach, admittedly.
      • Naed
        and it has the file -> tag function in the menu, so its no biggie :)
      • oh ?
      • do tell :)
      • VxJasonxV
        I use picard to get everything grouped and with initial information, and quite often I use other apps (Pollux when it's in my iTunes library), or CoverScout/Song Genie to gather a bunch more information Picard does not necessarily keep (art, lyrics, genre, etc.)
      • does it really have a manual tag function?! I don't think I've ever noticed.
      • what OS are you on, btw?
      • Naed
        win7
      • under tools
      • VxJasonxV
        huh. tools -> tags from filename... WOW
      • I never, EVER noticed that.
      • Naed
        :)
      • VxJasonxV
        glad you could help me too :)
      • Naed
        hehe :) i use mp3 tagger most of the time for the manual tagging, because it has a scriptish kinda interface for it, which is very very powerfull :)
      • http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ <- thats the one
      • youre on mac or ?
      • VxJasonxV
        jah
      • Naed
        damn, coverscout looks nifty :)
      • VxJasonxV
        I was going to suggest mp3tag or jaikoz
      • though I don't know the full extent of either of those apps
      • CoverScout and SongGenie are expensive, but I thoroughly enjoy them for more mainstream releases.
      • And MusicBrainz fills the gap for things I enter myself, and those much much more niché releases :).
      • Naed
        mp3 tag is very fast and the scripting is very powerfull :)
      • VxJasonxV
        I used EasyTag while I was on linux, it's the closest analog to Mp3Tag, I imagine.
      • Naed
        yesterday i redid some 12k of tunes or so, with mp3 tag and a custom script in there, basically setting genre and removing stuff that wasnt needed and adding some details
      • took around 3 hours of work total
      • VxJasonxV
        nice
      • Naed
        so yes, if someone asks, its highly recommendable :D
      • VxJasonxV / you still around ?
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      • hawke__ / you know your way around scripting dont you ?
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      • hawke__
        Naed: …some, why?
      • VxJasonxV
        hi, sorry
      • Naed
        im trying to make sense of a script i found on the forum :)
      • nothing to be sorry about VxJasonxV :)
      • $replace($if($eq($left($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),4),The ),[$left($right($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),$sub($len($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%)),4)),1)],[$left($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),1))/$rreplace($replace($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),...,…),\\.\$,$noop(.))/%albumartist% - $replace(%album%,...,…),\\.\$,$noop(.))/$num(%tracknumber%,2) - %albumartist% - $replace(%title%,...,…) $noop(.)
      • that mess there
      • if read from the back
      • the last $replace , what is the meaning of that one
      • why not just use %title% ?
      • hawke__
        It replaces three periods (...) with the ellipsis character (…)
      • Naed
        hmm
      • hawke__
        Or the other way around, not sure.
      • No, I was right.
      • Naed
        hmm, that sadly doesnt mean much for me, my only comparison here is the examples i can see in the options under MB, and it doesnt show a difference there ..
      • so if it isnt too much trouble could you explain a bit more ?
      • hawke__
      • In unicode, there is provided a specific character for the ellipsis.
      • Naed
        okies
      • it makes sense now :)
      • thank you :)
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      • still anyone awake ?
      • ddaydj
        ?
      • Naed
        you know your way around scripting ?
      • ddaydj
        in picard?
      • Naed
        aye
      • ddaydj
        its similar to a lot of other things i know, so sure
      • Naed
        fair :)
      • $replace($if($eq(%albumartist%,Various Artists),Various Artists/,$if($eq($left($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),),The ),$left($right($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),$sub($len($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%)),4)),1),$left($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),1))/$rreplace($replace($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%),...,…),\\.\$,$noop(.))/$if($ne(%albumartist%,Various Artists),$if(%date%,[$left(%date%,4)] )))$rreplace($replace(%album%,...,…),\\.\$,$noop(.))/$num(%t
      • can you help figure out why i on the last title get underscore replacements for the spaces ?
      • ddaydj
        can you just paste the relevant part?
      • Naed
        $replace(%artist% - %title%,...,…),,$noop(.)) <- i think its this part
      • ddaydj
        did you write this script?
      • Naed
        but it might tie back to something before that
      • nope, its a hack job im working
      • because i dont understand it
      • im basically just prodding it and trying to figure out what the heck it does :)
      • ddaydj
        its hard for other people to help you with your script if you don't understand your script
      • Naed
        oh, i know :)
      • ddaydj
        i would suggest stripping it down to the most basic level and building on top of that
      • also install notepad++ and use that to make sure you have all your parethesis closed
      • Naed
        but as when i asked before it might be a concept i didnt know about, re: the elipsis replacement that hawke explained for me :)
      • ill do that and have a look, thank you for the suggestion :)
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      • VxJasonxV
        nikki, no, I mean like edit view. timeline. for all cd stubs. or perhaps unattached ones.
      • I submitted a stub logged out so I could look up more information and enter it later.
      • nikki
        no
      • you could try searching the cd stubs
      • VxJasonxV
        I did, couldn't find it.
      • Does it follow the same 24 hour indexing rule?
      • nikki
        6 hours
      • VxJasonxV
        Direct Search doesn't work for cd stubs
      • ah, then I can try again
      • that timeline page is pretty awesome, btw
      • nikki
        (the main search is also 6 hours ;))
      • VxJasonxV
        never seen it before
      • nikki feels like the only person who doesn't really like it :P
      • woot, there it is
      • I didn't say it was informative. It just looks cool.
      • nikki
        ah, I see
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      • jesus2099
        hi there !
      • nikki; as style grand-master, are you concerned by the cover URL AR also ?
      • Tecfan_work
        "concerned"?
      • jesus2099
        I mean like the french word "concernée" ... ah, what would be the translation... i open my dico
      • maybe "involved" sounds better
      • nikki has no idea what you're actually asking her