CallerNo6 still doesn't see how to submit acoustids w/ picard. The standalone fingerprinter seems to work fine.
reosarevok wonders why it does *that*
CallerNo6, you can only submit after scanning
(and if it doesn't find them alone, I think)
CallerNo6
reosarevok: I'll try next time I add a disc then, thanks. Anyway, was there a more specific question about sortnames?
reosarevok
Not really
:)
Once you scan them, it doesn't find them, and you move them to the right pane somehow (via lookup or whatever) Submit will un-grey
CallerNo6
I think of sortnames as being on the same level as Release Artist. i.e. really just an answer to the question, "Where would I expect to find this in a music store?" IMO.
reosarevok
Aww
So cute
Members of the music-store generation
reosarevok hides
CallerNo6
Okay then, "where would I expect to find this artist in my rolodex?"
reosarevok
:D
CallerNo6
Oh. Weird. You can still buy those things? Who knew?
reosarevok had to search for it as he only knew the word existed because of At the Drive-In
ah, I found one of those but didn't know what it meant. Or, I guess I could look for a song to relate this to. Thanks.
nikki
I would update my scripts to just ignore unused urls, but the ref count column also doesn't get updated ¬_¬
CallerNo6 doesn't understand how an unused url remains in the database, but that's hardly at the top of the list of things he doesn't understand.
reosarevok
CallerNo6, URLs are entities
same as artists are
(they have MBIDs and everything, don't they?)
So it makes sense that ModBot needs to go and remove them (as artists)
And seeing that it still doesn't remove RGs nor labels, it's unsurprising that it doesn't remove URLs either
CallerNo6
Yeah, I was just going to type "but then why doesn't modbot delete them?"
Shepard
does it remove works yet?
nikki
reosarevok: they used to be automatically deleted before as soon as they were no longer used :P you don't add a url in the same way as you add other entities so it makes sense that you don't remove a url in the same way either
as far as I know, we don't delete unused tags now either, they just hang around in the db cluttering up the tag search results, and they're not entities
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CallerNo6 daydreams of a "holding company" flag that would keep a label from showing up in the release editor search field
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we already have label types :P
reosarevok
:p
(holdings not showing)
nikki
it probably just involves adding "and not type:holding" to the query it uses
22:50] *CallerNo6 doesn't understand how an unused url remains in the database, but that's hardly at the top of the list of things he doesn't understand.
same as tags
if is edited (like misspelling)
or an unused tagt
it's still in database
ianmcorvidae
there's some things done to save space: specifically, a given URL or tag only exists once, even if it's linked multiple times
what this means is that changing something is a matter of pointing to a new line, not modifying the old one
and you'd have to check explicitly to see if the old one doesn't have anything pointing at it -- which, presumably, nobody bothered to actually write