#musicbrainz

i'll take a pair

catgroove: Fik du mine beskeder i går?

collaboration is the dumbest ar

it's still not "right".. artists collaborate on works, not each other

I agree, but that was the AR all the more experienced users were arguing ought to be used in a recent edit debate

what about if a chopper crashed at a woodstock and all the bands rushed toward the crash to help out, would that be considered collaboration with each other?

:D

i think i just collaborated all over myself

impressive

MxxCon - I think that'd be considered a mashup :P

hi warp :)

hello

HI! I have a question about building libmusicbrainz and libtunepimp

I've installed libmusicbrainz, and I'm trying to configure libtunepimp, but it's can't seem to find libmusicbrainz

When I check to see if libmusicbrainz is in the correct place, find that it is, though it has been installed as libmusicbrainz3, I belive

luks: ping

libtunepimp is old i think, it probably doesn't work with libmusicbrainz3... which sounds like something new.

Freso: ?

seliopou: what do you need libtunepimp for?

I was just looking to mess around with it

luks: Just thought I'd direct your attention to seliopou's question. :)

there aren't any good os x taggers out there (at least that live up to my standards)

seliopou: libmusicbrainz3 is completely new library

so I wanted to see what I could do

you need libmusicbrainz2

I see

I'll try installing that

Thanks!

but I'd suggest to not write anything new that uses libtunepimp

seliopou: If you come up with anything useful or would like someone to conspire with about an OS X tagger, please let me know.

seliopou compile kde and then amarok :D

seliopou: i'm quite happy with picardqt on os x.

MxxCon: I've been tempted :)

MxxCon: amarok is a good tagger, since when? :)

since you start believing it is

it's a sufficiently good tagger..

well, I guess it depends on what you expect from a tagger/player :)

what do you think is a good tagger?

for any os

warp: as a user, I don't want to install so many dependencies to run a program

as a developer, I don't mind, as long as I'm creating something :)

MxxCon: something more than just ID3v1-like album/title/artist tags

ID3 has over 80 frame types

even the "basic" vorbis recommendation has more tag types

seliopou: heh, ok

*oh

hey luks, I knw you can create new functions with plugins... can you create variables as well?

luks, i want pretty basic info directly in my file plus UID and all the extra stuff in a separate database

BrianFreud: "variable" == physical tag info

but the one from the latest ticket can't be done as a variable

was wondering if I'd be able to hack some plugin together to pull off some of those variables I'd suggested as enhancements

it needs to be a function, and it would require also some internal picard changes

Speaking of which

many not-computer players crapout when files have bunch of unknown-to-them tags

that one I figured - the other 4, I figured, prob could be

luks: do you have any plans to adopt libmusicbrainz3?

seliopou: what do you mean by adopt? in libtunepimp?

afk a sec

yeah

libtunepimp is dead

there will be no new release

luks: gotcha

ah luks is coding picard..cool hats off to you

back... so luks, if I was to try an figure out how to impliment one (or all) of the other 4 variable, would I be creating $functions or %variables%?

BrianFreud: depends... if you expect something to go to the tags, it should be a variable

for example %language% as LANGUAGE in ogg vorbis tags

sortof - I'm looking with a aim towards pathnames, not nessesarily tags

so, hascoverart should be probably a function

luks do you know of encspot software?

so I could have a NoLanguageSet/ as well as a NoTypeSet/ to clean up

MxxCon: nope, what is that?

might be useful to you http://www.guerillasoft.co.uk/encspot/

BrianFreud: the ones from http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2867 will be in a10 (tomorrow)

a10 already? nice!

oh, lol, ok - I'll stop bothering trying to figure out how to write it then... :)

yes, because a9 has one stupid bug

have your len function and the cover.py up, trying to figure how to do it :P

what's that?

if you submit any PUIDs to MB, it will show you the standard error window on exit

hmmm - I'd noticed that too, but I tend to funk something up each session, figured it was just me :P

hmm!

if you get that anytime, please create a bug report and add the log

well, you know me, I try to break it...

who else would try to drag a cluster from one instance to another? :P

because if I don't know about such problems, I can't fix them

:)

Did you change anything else in the PUID submit code?

no, I don't think so

Since a9, I've noticed I occasionally get an active "Submit PUIDs" button when loading only already ID'd files

no PUID edits show up in my edit log, however

oh, by the way... with the whole quasi-genre thing I was working on. I've found the if(artist1|artist2,%%) works well for classical and spokenword, but horribly for jazz, if you ever try to set something similar up yourself.

no, I use last.fm tags as "genre"

for jazz I just end up using an if2((if(%%,artist1),jazz),(if(%%,artist2),jazz),etc). Just so many collabs and variations on a name, you either end up missing 90% of the jazz groups, or trying to list every single permutation :P

so I usually end up with 10+ tags per file

ugh

no, that's actually quite cool

see, I'm using it for actual paths, so last.fm isn't too useful

because you can then filter the library in various ways

would be easier to write plugin for that, probably

lol... haven't quite gotten it where I want it - you adding those 4 tags will definitely let me get it 100% - but oh my god the string is long...

with a list of names, and then check all of them

put it this way, in notepad, with wordwrap off, it wraps 4 full lines :P

heh

yeah

if you're looking for, say, bill cosby and george carlin = spokenword, no problem.

But if you have Miles Davis, Miles Davis Quartet, The Miles Davis Trio, Miles Davis Sextet, etc...

then all the Miles Davis & John Coltrane, Frank Sinatra & Miles Davis...

gets to be insanely long, and you inevitably miss some

So sometimes better to use the one, sometimes better to use the other - then I just string them all together in a if2

luks would be easier to write plugin for that, probably <-- yes please! :O

well, if I will have time, I can hack on something also with page in the options window

:)

so you can easily map names to "genre"

:D

actually, it really isn't a complex filenaming string - it just looks like it when you mash it all together.

the picard scripting-fuu could nered to be able for newlines

very true

I didn't expect people will use such insanely long *file naming* scripts

well now you know ;)

what, like this? http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2150

lol

you are really crazy :)

lol

hey, it works :P

you could move it to the main script editor

just set a variable like %_genre%

actually, I have no idea how the script editor works :P

and then use it in the file naming script

wait uh, isn't it the main script?

you're using this in the 'filerename' thing? o_o

yeah, that's my non-VA filenaming string

it has room for alltrhat??

yup

:O

that is all one line of text

that's nuts

use the script thing

lol

I edit in notepad, then paste it back in :P

luks: main reason I've done it this way is I don't know how to use the script editor

how do you write something in the cript thing ,and then referencethat in thefilerename?