Yeah, a lot of people don't seem to be fans of it. I suppose that's to be expected, what with the whole .NET thing ;)
2007-06-05 15605, 2007
Aankhen``
Even leaving aside my unnatural prejudice, Banshee appears to be built using Mono, but not *around* it.
2007-06-05 15631, 2007
dholmes
I haven't looked at its internals enough to have a meaningful opinion about that
2007-06-05 15652, 2007
Aankhen``
By "integrate Parrot" I meant that the end-user would be able to script everything about the player using any language that runs under Parrot.
2007-06-05 15605, 2007
dholmes
Ah
2007-06-05 15620, 2007
dholmes
So they just don't expose anything in an extensible way
2007-06-05 15633, 2007
Aankhen``
Banshee doesn't appear to, yeah.
2007-06-05 15647, 2007
dholmes
Have you tried Rhythmbox/Python at all?
2007-06-05 15649, 2007
Aankhen``
(Plugins don't count. fb2k already has those anyway.)
2007-06-05 15652, 2007
Aankhen``
No, I'm afraid I haven't.
2007-06-05 15621, 2007
dholmes
I can't say if it's any better, but they do seem to let you do a lot of stuff (though of course Python isn't equivalent to the goals of Parrot or .NET)
2007-06-05 15622, 2007
HiFructose
does banshee run on windows?
2007-06-05 15623, 2007
Aankhen``
I haven't tried a lot of players, before you ask. ;-)
2007-06-05 15627, 2007
HiFructose
btw banshee is totally imprecise
2007-06-05 15633, 2007
HiFructose
it has exactly the kind of stuff i don't like
2007-06-05 15642, 2007
dholmes
HiFructose: Not yet, but actually one of the Mono project's Google Summer of Code projects is to port it
2007-06-05 15645, 2007
HiFructose
for example cover fetching is just done based on a search on amazon
2007-06-05 15656, 2007
HiFructose
in BMP, you can only get a cover for an album if you have an ASIN
2007-06-05 15600, 2007
HiFructose
(from tagging with MB for example)
2007-06-05 15613, 2007
BrianFreud
no coverart AR support?
2007-06-05 15613, 2007
HiFructose
and editing of metadata in banshee fails silently if it can't write to the files
2007-06-05 15617, 2007
HiFructose
AR?
2007-06-05 15622, 2007
dholmes
I can't comment on Banshee because I've never gotten it to work. Last time I tried, it ate 600 MB of RAM and then died as soon as I tried importing my library
2007-06-05 15627, 2007
BrianFreud
advanced relationship
2007-06-05 15630, 2007
HiFructose
BrianFreud: in banshee?
2007-06-05 15635, 2007
BrianFreud
bmp
2007-06-05 15636, 2007
dholmes
In BMP
2007-06-05 15642, 2007
HiFructose
what do you mean by AR?
2007-06-05 15643, 2007
dholmes
I assume that AR is newer than the ASIN thing?
2007-06-05 15646, 2007
BrianFreud
yes
2007-06-05 15656, 2007
BrianFreud
coverart AR = link right to a jpg of coverart
2007-06-05 15657, 2007
HiFructose
for an AR i still need to have the basic MB data
2007-06-05 15609, 2007
dholmes
HiFructose: you can associate album art with a release in MB without it being an Amazon ASIN
Yeah, it wasn't there last time I worked on MB substantially (last summer)
2007-06-05 15655, 2007
BrianFreud
not sure, but it's newer than last summer
2007-06-05 15625, 2007
BrianFreud
aCiD2 hacked together a way to pull it from XML for me before luks officially added it though, so I know it's possible
2007-06-05 15651, 2007
HiFructose
uhm let's see
2007-06-05 15601, 2007
HiFructose
heh luks
2007-06-05 15615, 2007
HiFructose
he actually recommended me not to switch to libmb3 as long as my own MB xmlws implementation is sufficient
2007-06-05 15616, 2007
HiFructose
;)
2007-06-05 15652, 2007
BrianFreud
I think it does come from the xml ws though
2007-06-05 15618, 2007
BrianFreud
not sure offhand - not something I personally have needed to pull that way
2007-06-05 15655, 2007
HiFructose
ok i think it's release-rels for inc
2007-06-05 15605, 2007
HiFructose
anyone have an example of a release which has coverart through AR?
2007-06-05 15621, 2007
BrianFreud
just about any bootleg in Nirvana :P
2007-06-05 15625, 2007
HiFructose
heh
2007-06-05 15635, 2007
BrianFreud
lol, don't ask :P
2007-06-05 15653, 2007
dholmes
Haha
2007-06-05 15605, 2007
dholmes
I read some of the comments on those edits
2007-06-05 15610, 2007
BrianFreud
ugh
2007-06-05 15623, 2007
BrianFreud
the 4 pages of edit notes?
2007-06-05 15629, 2007
BrianFreud
on the *one* edit? :P
2007-06-05 15642, 2007
dholmes
That's why I was so worried about using Nirvana as an example; there were whole novels written about things like how the spaces appear in cat numbers
2007-06-05 15646, 2007
BrianFreud
LOL
2007-06-05 15655, 2007
BrianFreud
yeah... there's a reason I retired the project
2007-06-05 15635, 2007
BrianFreud
just not worth my getting a hernia trying to get edits through if certain people can't be bothered to read the wiki and see that rules can possibly change
2007-06-05 15616, 2007
BrianFreud
sorry, bitter subject for me... :P
2007-06-05 15643, 2007
BrianFreud
too many fights in the edits
2007-06-05 15603, 2007
HiFructose
ah
2007-06-05 15604, 2007
HiFructose
url-rels
2007-06-05 15615, 2007
HiFructose
gives:
2007-06-05 15620, 2007
HiFructose
</relation-list
2007-06-05 15630, 2007
HiFructose
yeah ok i see i need to work on our XMLWS stuff a little
2007-06-05 15639, 2007
HiFructose
hrm i should switch our CD code to use the XMLWS as well
2007-06-05 15644, 2007
HiFructose
so far it still requires libmb2
2007-06-05 15609, 2007
HiFructose does that just now
2007-06-05 15602, 2007
HiFructose
although
2007-06-05 15611, 2007
HiFructose
what else can give me discid?
2007-06-05 15630, 2007
HiFructose
isn't it somewhere on the wiki how the discid is calculated?
2007-06-05 15636, 2007
BrianFreud
I think so
2007-06-05 15645, 2007
HiFructose
also BMP uses cdparanoia,maybe it can do it
2007-06-05 15606, 2007
BrianFreud
that sort of sounds right, actually, for how it's currently being done...
