#musicbrainz

;)

I'm glad we're all mature individuals. :-P

Yeah, a lot of people don't seem to be fans of it. I suppose that's to be expected, what with the whole .NET thing ;)

Even leaving aside my unnatural prejudice, Banshee appears to be built using Mono, but not *around* it.

I haven't looked at its internals enough to have a meaningful opinion about that

By "integrate Parrot" I meant that the end-user would be able to script everything about the player using any language that runs under Parrot.

Ah

So they just don't expose anything in an extensible way

Banshee doesn't appear to, yeah.

Have you tried Rhythmbox/Python at all?

(Plugins don't count. fb2k already has those anyway.)

No, I'm afraid I haven't.

I can't say if it's any better, but they do seem to let you do a lot of stuff (though of course Python isn't equivalent to the goals of Parrot or .NET)

does banshee run on windows?

I haven't tried a lot of players, before you ask. ;-)

btw banshee is totally imprecise

it has exactly the kind of stuff i don't like

HiFructose: Not yet, but actually one of the Mono project's Google Summer of Code projects is to port it

for example cover fetching is just done based on a search on amazon

in BMP, you can only get a cover for an album if you have an ASIN

(from tagging with MB for example)

no coverart AR support?

and editing of metadata in banshee fails silently if it can't write to the files

AR?

I can't comment on Banshee because I've never gotten it to work. Last time I tried, it ate 600 MB of RAM and then died as soon as I tried importing my library

advanced relationship

BrianFreud: in banshee?

bmp

In BMP

what do you mean by AR?

I assume that AR is newer than the ASIN thing?

yes

coverart AR = link right to a jpg of coverart

for an AR i still need to have the basic MB data

HiFructose: you can associate album art with a release in MB without it being an Amazon ASIN

ok i have to check that out

erm

via archive.org or cdbaby.org, others in the future

how does that work on the xmlws?

any inc value for that?

inc parameter*

Yeah, it wasn't there last time I worked on MB substantially (last summer)

not sure, but it's newer than last summer

aCiD2 hacked together a way to pull it from XML for me before luks officially added it though, so I know it's possible

uhm let's see

heh luks

he actually recommended me not to switch to libmb3 as long as my own MB xmlws implementation is sufficient

;)

I think it does come from the xml ws though

not sure offhand - not something I personally have needed to pull that way

ok i think it's release-rels for inc

anyone have an example of a release which has coverart through AR?

just about any bootleg in Nirvana :P

heh

lol, don't ask :P

Haha

I read some of the comments on those edits

ugh

the 4 pages of edit notes?

on the *one* edit? :P

That's why I was so worried about using Nirvana as an example; there were whole novels written about things like how the spaces appear in cat numbers

LOL

yeah... there's a reason I retired the project

just not worth my getting a hernia trying to get edits through if certain people can't be bothered to read the wiki and see that rules can possibly change

sorry, bitter subject for me... :P

too many fights in the edits

ah

url-rels

</relation-list

yeah ok i see i need to work on our XMLWS stuff a little

hrm i should switch our CD code to use the XMLWS as well

so far it still requires libmb2

although

what else can give me discid?

isn't it somewhere on the wiki how the discid is calculated?

I think so

also BMP uses cdparanoia,maybe it can do it

that sort of sounds right, actually, for how it's currently being done...

heh actually i use the xmlws

except for the first step of acquiring the discid

mb_releases_by_id (release_id, releases);

what a dumb redundant check

lol, luks is the expert

I just try my best to break it :P

if (release_id.size() && !release_id.empty())

^

BrianFreud: heh

i need to ask luks yeah

hell i'll just read the libmb2 code

HiFructose: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/DiscIDCalculation

hmm

hmm

Jugdish: thanks

np

inhouseuk__ is now known as inhouseuk

can some mb guru correct an error in a submission i just made?

like a typo

http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=... <-- "Tears Day" --> "Tears Dry"

Usually it's just best to create a new edit to fix it

If you ask loudly and long enough you might convince an autoeditor to do it for you, but I dunno why you'd need to

joshk: fixed it for you

dholmes: because i hate the turnaround time

and i know drsaunde is always looking at my mods :)

Yeah, that used to drive me nuts, but doesn't PicardQt let you make changes to the tags it assigns?

i don't use a gui

Ah

but i don't think guis are exempt from the stipulations of the web interface

The web interface is the only way to change the data

oh i see what you mean

Yeah

well, yeah, i can make the change myself, but i thought i'd just give it a shot

You'd have to wait; it just makes it less annoying if you're tagging files

and look, 2 mins later, it is fixed :)

Yeah

PS..i saw Winehouse 2 weeks ago...wasn't that impressed

drsaunde: i think the album is refreshing

oh i like the album....the live show was less good

but i'm certain her live performance is highly variable.. she is kind of a drunk

lol..yeah

pfft. i saw steely dan last year and i ran screaming back to my albums

ls

d'oh

drsaunde: i think the recording is mastered too loud.. reminds me of a rhcp album

Hah

I'd like to see a new album that isn't :P

Can version isn't too extreme

LOL, just coincidentally I was just working on organizing some RHPS to add...

this is the US cut.. i can definitely see some dumbass US record companies banging up the gain for their release

mo's gonna love me... adding the Norwegian cast version of RHPS :P

inhouseuk__ is now known as inhouseuk

sadly the Can version doesn't have the ghostface track (although a better version is on more fish)

ah done

i've also factored out all redundant code

and

listening to Nirvana

heh

hi

where in the wiki should I write about accents rules for Italian titles and artists? CapitalizationStandardItalian?

I can't see any other existing page that fits

I guess it wouldn't hurt to put it there; it can always be moved later I guess