but what about the difference in track lengths? 12:29 vs 3:52
cooperaa
no idea
maybe they added it from a disc id
no, I really have no clue
SenRepus
data doesnt always have the same track time?
cooperaa
that's what I thought...
BrianFreud
it should
depends on how much data,right?
Jugdish notices that it was imported from FreeDB and wonders what FreeDB called the [silence] track
cooperaa
if you're reading it as audio, a video would appear longer since it's much bigger
BrianFreud
yeah
Jugdish
that doesn't make sense to me
hmm, on FreeDB the track title is just blank
SenRepus
also depends on wehre the data is or how much gap it has
Jugdish
what sort of program would just blindly translate megabytes into a track length?
cooperaa
one that sucks
SenRepus
megabytes = space on disc = disc id
BrianFreud
Jugdish, I'm curious... on the voting screen, the data that's hidden, it's still there, right?
Jugdish
the data that's hidden?
BrianFreud
you know how you can click a release to "expand" it out?
Jugdish
oh yeah
BrianFreud
the little arrow button
Jugdish
yes it's there, it's just made invisible via CSS
BrianFreud
would it be hard to, I don't know, turn the release text background red if release event date >current date?
Jugdish
when i load an edit list i originally see all the expanded releases as it's loading, then they all collapse once the javascript kicks in
BrianFreud
help catch all these "entered before released" ones?
Jugdish
no, that wouldn't be hard
BrianFreud
I'm going through hitting all the no note ones now
but those are my next pass through
Jugdish
i don't personally have a problem with future releases so long as they have track lengths and puids, that's a good indication it got leaked and the data being entered isn't pure speculation
BrianFreud
Ugh, I see so many post-release edits to fix things, etc
minimally, they ought not to be set to "official" - they're from an advance promo copy, or whatever
Jugdish
we desperately need a better way to classify/handle internet leaks, we can't just ignore that they exist
cooperaa
well if it was added from a promo and the final tracklisting is different, a new release should be added
old one kept as promo
BrianFreud
that's my sense
Jugdish
i agree with that
cooperaa
but I like the set as bootleg for now
BrianFreud
if it gets added as official I vote no, unless the status is changed and the info rock solid
cooperaa
good god.... 4 more pages to go of my subscribes
Jugdish: you know the AR greasemonkey script?
Jugdish
yeah?
cooperaa
did you set that one up?
yes, I see you did on userscripts :)
Jugdish
the AR disambiguation one?
cooperaa
when setting "X is the earliest release of Y" can you make it include the first release event?
yup, that one
Jugdish
yeah
cooperaa
that'd be cool
Jugdish
only under that condition though?
only for albums or for tracks too?
cooperaa
ummm
is it always needed?
I just thought it would be useful for that case
but it may be for others
BrianFreud
woot! only 1150 release edits to go! :)
cooperaa
you said 1178 a LOOOOOOOOONG time ago :)
BrianFreud
lol, yeah, but we've been getting 20 new ones every 10 miunutes tonight :P
cooperaa
haha
nightgroove
nightgroove is now known as catgroove
catgroove beats BrianFreud
catgroove
BrianFreud I'm just this guy, you know? :P <-- uhno
actually, side benefit is the text box being nice and normal sized, so you can read what you're typing
SenRepus
i was glad to have those 300 TMBG NATS off my list but some guy voted no and made you resubmit them
thats just rude
BrianFreud
lol, blame lauri
cooperaa
if a band intentionally leaks their album, does that constitute a digital release event?
BrianFreud
i guess so
plus there's gonna be like 4 versions of that release
if they intentionally leak it, is it then a promo, instead of a bootleg?
cooperaa
gonna have to find some proof it was actually intentionally released first
hmm
stupid bands
srotta
I'd first confirm that it was really leaked, and then just add the info to annotation.
cooperaa
apparentlly it was
it's been added to the DB :)
with trms
srotta
Yeah, but intentionally?_)
cooperaa
oh, I meant the release - the release event is currently the expected official date
SenRepus has quit
srotta
Intentional leak sounds like "we don't plan on recording anymore" :P
BrianFreud
maybe someone in the band needed ratio creds at a torrent site?
;p
cooperaa
LOL
what do you think of adding an annotation to leaked albums?
This album is currently set to 'Bootleg' as it was leaked before it's official release date. Once the date has passed, please remove this annotation and change the status to 'Official'.