15:03 PM
brianfreud
hmmm, ruaok, you around?
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15:04 PM
MClemo
at least she gives an explanation :)
15:05 PM
brianfreud
yeah, the reasoning doesn't quite make sense to me, but I just want to make sure we don't have to delist just cause the artist says they don't want to be listed
15:07 PM
luks
we already had one case like that
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the entry was removed and added again after a few days
15:09 PM
Rondom
iirc there was even a blog-announcement on this
15:09 PM
luks
yep
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15:10 PM
brianfreud
I thought I remembered something like this from long ago, before I was really active... thanks for the refresher luks :)
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HairMetalAddict sees the reason, and slips over to last.fm to see what crap she's pulling there...
15:11 PM
that she even has a wikipage, though, I think she's more "visible" than Flagrant was (though I've never heard of her)
15:12 PM
It has occurred to me though, in a different sense, something alluded to in the comments to that blog post
15:12 PM
A friend of mine is in the database. Her published birthdate is on the artist.
15:13 PM
However, it's her "public" birthdate - she's actually 9 years older, but the younger age sells better to the "college guy" crowd
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So would we use the real birthdate, or the "public" birthdate?
15:13 PM
luks
I'd say we should use no birthdate in that case
15:14 PM
brianfreud
yes, but with no way to block adding it back, it's akin to the puid situation
15:14 PM
hard to remove, harder to keep blank, easy to be readded by someone who doesn't know any better
15:15 PM
luks
well, this is a community database, not a database of "facts" somebody said
15:15 PM
brianfreud
(who of us is really checking on such things as birthdate add edits, vs all the remove release and similar edits?)
15:16 PM
luks
so if the community doesn't agree, screw artists :)
15:16 PM
brianfreud
"checking" as in voting, not veriying, btw :P
15:16 PM
lol, I tend to agree...
15:16 PM
it's kind of like suing the internet because you gave your name years ago online, and now you want noone to know it
15:19 PM
luks
though I can understand why she doesn't want to be on last.fm
15:19 PM
brianfreud
I have a hard time understanding that, but I can understand it better than trying to wipe herself out of MB - esp for the given reasons
15:21 PM
ojnkpjg
eh, i'm going to vote no on all those edits
15:21 PM
brianfreud
if she even really is that artist, that is
15:21 PM
ojnkpjg
i don't think any artist ought to have a say in how freely available information about them flows
15:21 PM
brianfreud
I tossed a yes at the one, just to hold it open til ru can see it - all of them already have 0:4
15:21 PM
I agree
15:22 PM
HairMetalAddict
There's also that. I could create an account and say I'm Alice God Cooper...
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Though that old man's probably in much better shape than me, heh.
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brianfreud
"Hi, this is Miles Davis? Take me out of the database please. Thanks."
15:26 PM
CatCat
lol
15:26 PM
shes also doign it wrong, shes changing not rem,oving
15:26 PM
that will only make an artist called **************
15:27 PM
also musicbrainz does not have shared artist entries
15:27 PM
ojnkpjg
s3cr37
15:28 PM
brianfreud
yeah, totally wrong all around, but I'm looking at the intent, not the borkiness of the edit itself
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hi drsaunde :) We were just discussing your find
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drsaunde
lol...i think i stumbled on klute first too
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srotta_
srotta_ is now known as srotta
15:31 PM
ojnkpjg
yeah, i noticed your votes already when i saw it
15:31 PM
Shepard giggles at http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunechaser/sets/72057594116462049/
15:32 PM
drsaunde
even funnier is that I was reading the wayback discussion wiki to see if there were any updates...and a bunch of the posts were from today
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found that bizarre
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brianfreud Joseph LoDuca - Xena the Warrior Princess - Main Title (from "Varese Sarabande: A 25th Anniversary Celebration") (01:18)
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CatCat
well its new zealand, not far from there
16:05 PM
brianfreud
yeah, it has that choral effect in it that always sounds like anime to me
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Jormangeud
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ruaok wakes up after a crappy night
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brianfreud
:(
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hi ru :)
18:24 PM
ruaok
time of day!
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I see there is turbulence I should check out?
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brianfreud
maybe
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ruaok
WTF???
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I'm just trying to figure out her motivations.
18:28 PM
editing herself?
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brianfreud
yeah, so it would seem
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and not even removing... rename to ***********************
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:P
18:29 PM
ruaok shrugs
18:29 PM
ruaok
playing with picard is quite rewarding.
18:30 PM
I'm looking forward to reading amarok the riot act
18:30 PM
brianfreud
haha
18:30 PM
oh, that reminds me...
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18:30 PM
luks
what's the problem with amarok?
18:31 PM
ruaok
moin luks
18:31 PM
luks
hi
18:31 PM
ruaok
the are still using TRMs
18:31 PM
luks
and PUIDs
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ruaok
both now?
18:31 PM
luks
amarok was one of the first applications that supported libtp0.5
18:31 PM
ruaok
wtf?
18:31 PM
luks
depends against which libtp it's compiled
18:31 PM
ruaok
ah, ok.
18:32 PM
did I mention WTF?
18:32 PM
seems like one hand of amarok doesn't seem to know what the other is doing
18:32 PM
nice work on beta1, btw.
18:32 PM
luks
that's very likely
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thanks :)
18:32 PM
ruaok
I'm shoving 11.5k tracks through it.
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and to re-save and load album coverart.
18:33 PM
I've had to restart it twice, which isn't bad. much improved!
18:33 PM
oh and py2app has come a long way.
18:33 PM
the work that was there was basically 90% of what's needed to get basic intel support running.
18:33 PM
brianfreud
yeah, all of one lockup here so far, and that was due to massive cpu-lock in another program
18:34 PM
luks
but 17MB for a .dmg without PUID support is a bit too much :(
18:34 PM
is that already compressed?
18:34 PM
ruaok
yes.
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aCiD2
17mb isn't too bad
18:34 PM
I'd happily download that
18:34 PM
warp
filesize really isn't all that important.
18:34 PM
ruaok
mac .app bundles are essentially totally static bundles.
18:35 PM
luks
the windows installer is 5MB
18:35 PM
warp
i'd be happy if it was 60mb :)
18:35 PM
luks
what's the difference?
18:35 PM
aCiD2
At least get something out though
18:35 PM
ruaok
and they work really well without DLL nightmares.
18:35 PM
warp afk again
18:35 PM
so, they pull in all the shared libs that might be needed and fix them up to run against the local bundle.
18:36 PM
they only refs that remain (in a proper .app) are the base system OS shared lib refs.
18:36 PM
that balloons the dmg file, but eases install issues.
18:36 PM
ruaok likes app bundles
18:36 PM
Muz mooses
18:36 PM
has anyone tried the dmg I posted?
18:37 PM
hi Muz!
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Muz
Hei ruaok!
18:37 PM
ruaok
it failed on a ppc, but ran ok on my laptop
18:37 PM
aCiD2
I can try it, I didn't see you post it though
18:37 PM
ruaok
last night, I hail mary'd a URL
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18:38 PM
aCiD2
Thanks :)
18:38 PM
ruaok
np
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18:38 PM
next up: a good icon.
18:38 PM
aCiD2
Gawd, uni connection is slow today
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50kbps :(
18:38 PM
ruaok
aCiD2: that's our side of things.
18:38 PM
aCiD2
Ah
18:38 PM
ruaok
we throttle downloads from our data center.
18:39 PM
wait, doesn'
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t users get mapped to the ftp site?
18:39 PM
luks
yep, but not automatically
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18:40 PM
ruaok wonders what is required to trigger that
18:40 PM
~ftpowner/bin/rsync-users
18:40 PM
ruaok
on
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scooby?
18:40 PM
luks
yes
18:41 PM
ruaok
ok, I'll do that for the next bundle.
18:41 PM
this one was a test I was surprised that worked...
18:41 PM
got me all awake so I couldnt go to sleep.
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