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:) that will please luks. it's much better than the old picard

I hope so :)

it's good that it has much of the same dependencies as the old picard, so I only need to install pyqt and mutagen

theres been a lot of discussion on the new picard at the forums http://forums.musicbrainz.org/ thats the place to look if you have any problems

well, I'm not really a big fan of forums

I only use them if I really need to

pae: Good to hear. ;)

Yeah, we need more people who don't like forums!

;)

what is the command for removing picard via setup.py?

python setup.py uninstall doesn't work

python setup.py help?

error: invalid command 'help'

damn

from PyQt4 import QtGui, QtCore

ImportError: No module named PyQt4

I installed it globally

and it doesn't work :(

maybe it's because I still have the old picard installed

Maybe your distro sucks? :p

maybe there's a bug in the code? :P

PicardQT is a dependency hell on almost every distro, mostly because it requires other packages which aren't part of normal distros, which themselves are dependant on newer versions of things provided by the distro... it's a mess. Hopefully by the time PicardQT hits a stable release these issues won't be issues anymore.

well, I only needed to install pyqt

[13:11] <pae> ImportError: No module named PyQt4

Apparently that's not your only problem. :-P

well, I don't know anything about python

Me neither

Enough to get programs working on my system, that's about it. PicardQT being the only exception.

the weird thing is that pyqt is installed via make, while other python stuff is installed via setup.py or similar scripts

pae: "ImportError: No module named PyQt4" means that pyqt is not installed

ok, I'll try installing it another way now

maybe I need to install it into another location, via the "-d dir where the PyQt modules will be installed" option

?

pae: Check what version of PyQt you installed?

PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.1

err

Well, there you go.

PyQt 4.1 + Qt 4.2

what, I need qt4.2?

yes

damn

pae: What distro are you using?

slackware 11

Right. Don't know a thing about that. :)

Freso: it's basically a DIY distro :)

luks: I know that much. :)

they say "learn <insert distro name> and you'll know <insert distro name> but, learn slackware, and you'll know linux"

:)

I don't want to know any OS

I want to use it

luks: you want to use slackware?

hell no :)

bbl, lunch

pae: anyway, it should be possible to install qt4 without problems even if you already have qt3 and kde

it just takes "some" time to compile

bonjour

why would picard be stripping album art? I can see it in the unmatched file but when I copy it over I lose it (and the date)

There's an option for cleaning existing tags.

could itunes be storing them as APEv2?

no other related option is selected.

hrm, yeah it's also adding a bad character to the end of tags, shows up as a box.

ok, it's just not showing the cover art.

but it is adding what shows up as a high-bit char to the end of tags.

back in 15.

any idea why 0.9 would be adding bad id3 data/padding?

it's not bad id3 data, it's a bug in itunes

but the next release will have a workaround for that

ok, so fixing them all up isn't needed then?

well, if you can wait for the next release and then re-save them all, then no

and about the cover art problem, make sure you have set picard to write ID3v2.3 tags

I don't.

the tags are being shown in itunes, just not in Picard.

v2.3 takes away utf-8 though.

utf-16 is good enough

My issue is how can I reasonably tell if it was Picard or Itunes that added the image?

picard shows cover art for albums only if the album has attached an ASIN in MB

otherwise it will show the "no cover art" image, but will not remove the original image from tags

ok, so I guess I have yet to see one that has that.

is that picard 0.7.2 or 0.9?

0.9

aah, it doesn't download cover art at all by default

clicking the cover art icon brings up a webpage.

Oh, so clicking embed isn't enough?

Might want to put a note in the Cover Art section of the options or remove the options unless the plugin is in.

once a plugin is loaded do I need to reload picard to activate it?

no, but you need to reload the albums

luks, btw. When do you want us to start translating PicardQt?

uhh, hard question...

:)

Well, I'll give you some time to ponder.

I'm going to depart for now and join the Bloomsday session.

Take care all!

So, this doesn't save any state from one instance to another right?

To reload and get the plugins working is going to take another 8 hours?

hmm?

8 hours of what?

er, 'for' what?

or do you mean just select all in the right hand box and remove?

to add my music folders.

I think it doesn't make much sense to load all your music to picard

How else would it group albums from the unknowns?

it's usually better to load a few albums, tag them, remove them, load another albums, etc.

Are there plans to allow storing state so you can do the work in more than one pass with the entire thing loaded?

there is an open bug report for something like that, but it's very low priority for me

picard is a tagger, not a media/library manager

dexter looks better. Was the perf issue spotted?

right, but if move edited files you end up breaking your library into 2 parts until it's done.

dmppanda: yep, http://blog.musicbrainz.org/archives/2007/04/cl...

I'd much rather edit everything and then write out all the changes at once.

luks: should have checked that. Thx ;)

ajh: true, but I'm sure you will quickly lose overview of what's going on that way

so it's easier to mistag files...

Hrm, actually it didn't move the files... it just copied them.

OK, it did for another saved album.

how do you tell that it's trying to get album art?

nvm.

No way to generate a list of missing songs is there?

nope

having a way to do that would be nice.

ugh, so you can't select multiple folders to import?

no

a bug?

"missing feature" :)

you can drag them from the file browser on left, if you have many of them

I'd have thought that would have been in the qt file chooser.

adding checkboxes and bulk operations would be helpful when say saving a pile of complete albums you know the info is correct for.