jacobbrett: ngs doesn't support pre-gap tracks properly
2009-12-25 35925, 2009
navap
What about adding an additional medium type, "pre-gap track" and then using that to store it. That way the track would be with the rest of the release.
2009-12-25 35942, 2009
navap
Although..then the other mediums get bumped a number, so maybe that's not a good idea.
2009-12-25 35911, 2009
nikki_
I was thinking of a relationship
2009-12-25 35945, 2009
nikki_
it wouldn't be perfect, but at least it would actually be linked to the release and things like picard could technically use the data
2009-12-25 35944, 2009
nikki
and I suppose that since releases will only be one release event (so it either has a pre-gap track or it doesn't), it would be easy to automatically convert the data when we do get proper support
2009-12-25 35952, 2009
navap
That makes sense.
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Dremora
<navap> What about adding an additional medium type, "pre-gap track" ��why not to use track number "0"?
2009-12-25 35935, 2009
navap
I don't think the server/database is setup to specify a track "0", that's why we have a pre-gap track problem in the first place.
2009-12-25 35927, 2009
Dremora
you mean INTEGER data type is unable to store "0" value?
this report is for the current codebase, not for ngs, so couldn't it be implemented for the latter? :)
2009-12-25 35956, 2009
navap
Quite possibly, but it hasn't been implemented yet. I think the developers have higher priorities than implementing pre-gap tracks at the moment.
2009-12-25 35945, 2009
Dremora
ok, so it may be possible in the future after releasing ngs
2009-12-25 35934, 2009
navap
Yes I believe so.
2009-12-25 35923, 2009
jacobbrett
That's what I was thinking, simply implement it as track 0...
2009-12-25 35938, 2009
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hopphopp
i need some assistance with picard (mac)
2009-12-25 35917, 2009
hopphopp
i have a folder of flacs
2009-12-25 35925, 2009
hopphopp
one album
2009-12-25 35944, 2009
hopphopp
none of the flacs had any metadata to start with
2009-12-25 35909, 2009
hopphopp
i opened picard and added all flacs to the unmatched files
2009-12-25 35932, 2009
hopphopp
after a few seconds it had matched them all and moved them to the rightmost column
2009-12-25 35907, 2009
hopphopp
where it listed 6 different albums
2009-12-25 35904, 2009
hopphopp
one of these suggested albums where correct but for some reason it only matched half of the tracks
2009-12-25 35921, 2009
hopphopp
that is, they had a green label next to their title
2009-12-25 35948, 2009
hopphopp
when selecting a matched track i could save it and it would get a green check mark
2009-12-25 35944, 2009
hopphopp
however, the other half of the tracks only had a green-yellow note symbol next to them
2009-12-25 35900, 2009
hopphopp
the old meta data section are empty for these tracks while the new metadata section contains the right values
2009-12-25 35921, 2009
hopphopp
but i can't find any way to make picard tag them with the data it found!?!? help!
2009-12-25 35957, 2009
jacobbrett
So the save button at the top doesn't work?
2009-12-25 35913, 2009
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hopphopp
no
2009-12-25 35922, 2009
hopphopp
jacobbrett: it only works for some of the tracks
2009-12-25 35934, 2009
hopphopp
the tracks with the green label next to them
2009-12-25 35946, 2009
jacobbrett
Hmm, is there any difference between the files that are green/aren't, ripped differently etc? pretty odd...
2009-12-25 35903, 2009
hopphopp
no, they are identical
2009-12-25 35915, 2009
navap
hopphopp: The note symbol is a placeholder, it means that there isn't a file matched to that track. Did you drag the incorrect albums (in the right pane) onto the correct one?
2009-12-25 35918, 2009
hopphopp
i found a solution that was really weird:
2009-12-25 35902, 2009
hopphopp
i mentioned that it listed 6 different albums as matching
2009-12-25 35919, 2009
hopphopp
9 out of 18 tracks where matched in the right album
2009-12-25 35929, 2009
hopphopp
the other 9 where spread out among the other albums
2009-12-25 35957, 2009
hopphopp
i had to drag one by one of these erroneously matched tracks to the correct album
2009-12-25 35902, 2009
hopphopp
then they where matched
2009-12-25 35931, 2009
hopphopp
navap: what do you mean by that there is no file matched to that track?
2009-12-25 35901, 2009
navap
When Picard loads an album in the right pane, it loads the entire tracklist and uses note icons as placeholders.
2009-12-25 35935, 2009
navap
When a file of yours is matched to an album/track that note symbol disappears and a colour (that represents the accuracy) appears in its place.
2009-12-25 35915, 2009
navap
Picard found 6 potential albums using your 18 tracks, that isn't uncommon. WHen that happens you have to pick the one that is correct and drag your files to it.
I don't see associations between discs and catalogs
2009-12-25 35939, 2009
navap
Ah okay, I don't think so. At least not yet anyway.
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ebisu
Hello all
2009-12-25 35939, 2009
ebisu
Got a release group question: Is it possible to list a release group under Various Artists with the releases under it assigned to specific artists? For example, on a 12 CD release titled Jazz Masters, each CD is a compilation of tracks by a one artist.
2009-12-25 35910, 2009
navap
Yes that's possible.
2009-12-25 35926, 2009
ebisu
Ok cool, so if the individual artist CD's are already in the database I can just merge them into the v
2009-12-25 35935, 2009
ebisu
Various Artists release group?
2009-12-25 35929, 2009
navap
Yeah
2009-12-25 35904, 2009
navap
Are they all already under VA? Or are the release groups credited to the same artist as the individual discs?
2009-12-25 35928, 2009
ebisu
Each CD in the box set is currently listed in a release group under the artist for that CD
2009-12-25 35912, 2009
navap
Were the discs also issued individually outside the boxset?
2009-12-25 35920, 2009
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ebisu
Sorry, lost connection. These releases were recently added by another editor and are still pending. Would moving them now be alright or is it better to wait until the original edits have been applied?
2009-12-25 35903, 2009
navap
Were the discs also issued individually outside the boxset?
2009-12-25 35922, 2009
ebisu
Oh, and to answer your question, no these CD's were not issued separately.
2009-12-25 35945, 2009
navap
Ah okay that makes it simpler.
2009-12-25 35951, 2009
navap
It's okay to go ahead with the merge/moves now if you want. You need to merge all the relevant release groups together into one, and then move that one release group to VA.
2009-12-25 35917, 2009
ebisu
Sounds good. Thanks :)
2009-12-25 35936, 2009
navap
You're welcome.
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nikki___
Dremora: how do you think the data should be displayed?
2009-12-25 35926, 2009
nikki___
I don't want to lose the links to the discs, but I'm not sure how I'd actually display the data
