#musicbrainz

i'd go for .two_columns_left/right though I think

aCiD2: any idea why and where catalyst would re-encode utf-8 text in utf-8 again?

or maybe just left_column right_column

nikki: mmm, nice

aCiD2: thx that's what I was looking for

pronik: need a bit more context

http://search.cpan.org/~cfranks/HTML-FormFu-0.0... read that, because it's probably what I'm going to tell you :)

hmm. not much -- I'm making an output from a new i18n plugin

ok, *reading*

aCiD2: where in the site layout should the music_news page go?

I've got it under /statistics right now, since that fits under the hood, but it looks very odd.

start a new toplevel dir 'news' ?

ruaok: template structure should match controller structure, depends where you want to put the controller :)

that's just stupid -- to fix unicode you have to disable it?

i don't get it, but anyway, it works

pronik: erm, no, you missed the point

decode anything coming in to your app, and encode whatever goes out

decode != turn utf off

Now grooving to: Loudness ~ Heavy Chains (4:20) (from Please Let There Be My Kind of Music - Heavy Music) (1985)

anyway need me desparately, or can I pop off to bed? :)

that sounds ass backwards. shouldn't I chose the controller location based on the URL structure?

lets settle this one question and I'll let you go.

* ruaok <3 TT <- me too, in a big way :)

hey brian

hey

ruaok: No, URL structure is independant of anything

by default, it will take the controller layout, but you can change that too (see the addrelease controller)

hmmm. its clear that my understanding of URL structure is a bit thin still

ok, I'll check it.

URL structure should reflect model interactions, I believe

well, I'll put it someplace where it makes sense and then I'll post a patch or push some changes or something silly like that.

but the root directory matches the controller names because a. that's how template names are automatically inferred (saves a line of typing) and b. matches intution

brianfreud: who's channel? tmi anyway

ah. ok, I'll have a place.

thanks mucho. and natta!

nn!

aCiD2: /me groans

:}

http://musicbrainz.org/show/stats/musicnews.html just finally loaded :P

hmmm, Kristin Chenoweth & Ellen Greene looks wrong, somehow - start/end the same?

this page is great for finding data bugs.

hmmm, all of mb.org is being really slow to load tonight - looks like it's the google js which is lagging it

I'm tempted to turn it off.

I don't really get much from the analytics pages.

have you played around with the new code?

urchin is depricated

no. what does it give?

haven't tried it myself, but noticed when I was at GA the other day that they're trying to get everyone to switch

Urchin was depriciated quite a while back I believe..almost a year now I think.

http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/ <-- ga.js

it has to become useful, or I'm gonna just toss it.

hmmm, going afk again, but, http://nutrun.com/weblog/does-google-analytics-... http://groups.google.com/group/analytics-help-b... etc

ruaok: I'd say, keep it for the moment, but let's test it against the TT site when the js is in

The DOM manipulations done by the current js screw up the urchin js page load time a good bit - with the page hooks that I've added in (say, for the sidebar), there's much less need for DOM manipulation

heh, I blocked that google script ages ago for being too slow to load

so there should be less effect... worth at least our time trialing it

[04:44] ruaokthat sounds ass backwards.

LMAO

woa taken outa context

:]

anyway to search http://musicbrainz.org/show/cdstub/topstubs.html ?

not yet

aha

becasue all bloddy releases should be in there already by now

some guys don't want a mb account

Well, I meant, since you have one you would be able to make the connection in the db.

lcdstub has cdtoc for http://musicbrainz.org/release/fbe28f63-2d66-44...

\o/

oh god this is fun

gah... arabic script stuff is confusing...

nikki_ is now known as nikki

hmm

yeah, that's a public api too

The first they talk about is artist redirection for mispellings..that's been around for quite some time now.

not like this, afaik

Whats different now?

it merges crap spelling in the librarys and charts

advanced search... how do I search the track number field?

tracknr: ?

i think it's dur

oh no thats tracktime

igonre me

You can use that to search for track number.

hmm

why is there a login box in the lowwer right of that?

Because you're not logged in.

but what requires you to be logged in?

It looks like at one point..eons ago, this page was supposed to act like a dashboard.

navap, advanced search :/

I need to search on track number in conjunction with other things...

tnum

hank you

thank you*

Your welcome :)

the advanced query syntax explanation popup is very light on necessary details like that

Check the link out, much more detail ^^

I am

Seems that page exists on the current server as well, I haven't seen a link to it though..or at least nowhere useful :p

On test, theres a link to it in the sidebar.

I just changed test. to www.

ping catfoooootest

catgroove: fo test

ok, what do i have to instal to see this properly? http://musicbrainz.org/artist/d0a0b3a2-ea58-4a7...

the artist name?

You mean, "Spın̈al Tap"

It seems to be another character that Lucida Console can't handle :(

heh

But Courier New is just so tiny and thin, it's really hard to read.

Consolas?

get consolas from a vista machine

dasjoe: ^5

I hate the evil empire

Oh right, there is also that option, but it's a bit weird looking as well. Lucida Console is just so much easier to read.

ANd now that I think about it, I think Consolas has it's limitations as well, I'm pretty sure I tried to read the Arabic script and it didn't work.

I'd be screwed in windows

Very exotic sounding fonts :p

I thought that inisially, but I think it rocks now

I wonder if it has wrong quote marks...

alastairp: Refering to Consolas? Or using Windows?

consolas :-P

I removed all the windows fonts in osx for annoying me with their stupid quote marks

so now I don't remember which ones were actually annoying :P

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alastairp: Read that?

navap: yep

but gnome-terminal atm

And you're using Consolas?

with, uh,

nah