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      • BrianG
        i love that song.
      • i didn't see too many crazys
      • i did have a resivour dogs/airport bathroom scene experience though
      • ojnkpjg: do you know the name of the place on newbury. i think it's a bakery and their logo was a cupcake with crossbones under it
      • they had awesome artwork in their windows
      • ojnkpjg
        i don't know
      • i don't go over to that area much
      • i still get lost trying to drive around there
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      • canidae
        ruaok: did you ever have any troubles compiling/running pylucene?
      • hmm, 14 hours away, drats
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      • ruaok
        canidae: I can help you with that in a little while. maybe 1 hr?
      • right now, I gtg...
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      • BrianG
        an album has to have bonus tracks to be a remaster?
      • FauxFaux
        The latest in my series of ungodly hacks, a cue-file-from-mb-id generator. Still waiting on picard support for .cue. ;) http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/cue.php?70ab0a60-eb35-41...
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      • BrianG
        i can't find that information in DuplicateRelease or RemasterRelationshipType
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      • yllona
        BrianG: i don't think so, doesn't really make sense
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      • BrianG
        yeah.. it's like.. why have the remaster ar?
      • if that was the case
      • yllona
        at least for jazz, remasters are generated from the original master tape of the recording, often the original master has to be massaged a bit (due to oxidation or whatever). but it's the original recording. but due to limitations of vinyl or 78 (duration of entire album), alternate takes are added to fill current CD duration ~78-84 minutes
      • but alternate takes are not always added, i have many re-masterd CDs that contain no additional material
      • BrianG
        please check my email to mb-users if you get a chance
      • yllona
        will do, got gmane URL?
      • or just fwd it to my nick at gmail.com
      • BrianG
      • yllona
        thanks!
      • looks like your correct here, according to the RemasterRelationshipType.
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      • The DuplicateReleaseType is too confusing for my taste, I need to think on the a bit
      • BrianG: nicely written e-mail, BTW
      • BrianG
        ty
      • yllona
        :)
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      • canidae
        ruaok: well, i got pylucene up & running on my laptop (ubuntu edgy), but on a debian sarge installation it's not so happy
      • ruaok: just gimme a hilight if you got some mins. i'm gonna go google a bit more so i might not respond at once, though
      • ruaok
        what problem are you having?
      • canidae
        mostly pebcak
      • or is it pebkac
      • well, just gimme a min, i think i found out :p
      • ruaok
        k
      • canidae
        (this time i had both gcj-3.3 and gcj-3.4 installed, and i didn't think about checking just what /usr/bin/gcj was symlinked to)
      • ruaok
        ah
      • yalaforge just uses the stuff from sun, which works ...
      • Freso
        yalaforge: As long as you're not on a 64-bit platform, that is...
      • yalaforge
        I'm not :)
      • Freso
        me is
      • Gah!
      • Freso kills X.org 7.1's keyboard layout
      • yalaforge
        I won't storm the beach this time. I'm waiting for parking lots and mcdonald's ;-)
      • canidae throws automake on pylucene
      • canidae
        argh, not again
      • i'm so sick tired of "undefined symbols" now
      • first it was "clock_gettime", then it was some "classnotfound" and now "PyTuple_Pack"
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      • Freso
        Who's making those "similar artist" lists again?
      • yllona
        freso: some agency, and they're *way out of date*
      • nor can the lists be updated/edited, sorry to say
      • canidae
        doesn't mb.org run on debian, btw?
      • yllona
        freso: i'd be happier if the "similar artist" were removed from MB, as the current implementation is completely inflexible
      • Freso
        yllona: Oh, I'd love that too.
      • yllona: After discussing an artist in another channel, I tossed in a link to MB and their first response was that the "related artists" was wrong.
      • yllona
        yep.
      • ruaok
        Freso: I've been negotiating with last.fm to get their data.
      • but that is taking foreeeever!
      • yllona
        'lo ru!
      • ruaok
        I'd very much like to fix this for the next server release.
      • hi yllona !
      • Freso
        ruaok: Can't the lists be removed until then, then?
      • ruaok
        Freso: no easily. I dont want to make server changes mid-stream.
      • that's what gets me in trouble time and time again.
      • Freso
        ruaok: Is it harder than commenting out some lines of code?
      • ruaok
        Freso: its not hard at all.
      • yllona
        ruaok: i'm way tardy on the update for lauri's minutes from yesterday's meeting. was called in for work for my day job. will get to it tonight
      • ruaok
        yllona: perfect.
      • Freso: I can do that sure.
      • but the main server wouldnt be updated until next release.
      • Freso nods
      • canidae
        right, so it was another classic. meh, i really should've thought about checking what /usr/bin/python was pointing to (python2.3)
      • gneh
      • Freso
        Well, my vote is for removing/commenting out the code producing that output until we've something more up-to-date.
      • ruaok
        crap. $800 bandwidth bill this month.
      • not good.
      • Freso: got that loud and clear!
      • canidae
        "PyLucene.JavaError: java.io.FileNotFoundException: /export/mb/index/_3d9hu.cfs (File too large)"... what? doesn't handle 2.4gb? :\
      • Freso
        ruaok: Lovely. :)
      • ruaok
        canidae: there are many threads on the pylucene-dev list about 2GB limits. go check there.
      • Freso: I prodded the last.fm team again. maybe something will happen.
      • canidae
        ruaok: that's odd, it worked on my laptop with the same index
      • i see, so it's gcj that screws it up
      • guess i possibly could tweak the index to be below 2gb, if there's no other "sane" solution
      • yllona
        ru: just sent a small donation, will set up a monthly recurring (albeit tiny -- for now), let me work with the bank
      • i have paypal issues, would prefer a bank draft
      • ruaok
        yllona: thanks!
      • yllona
        you're welcome
      • Freso
        Damn.
      • ruaok
        I receive a $10 recurring donation via someone's bill payer service.... you could do that if you have a bill payer service...
      • yllona
        yeah, let me talk to the bank :)
      • Freso
        There are *two* pipers called Iain MacDonald and have both played with the Battlefield Band and appear on the same compilation... but they're *not the same*!
      • ruaok
        cool. musicip just donated $500 towards my Montreal/Future of Music trip.
      • $545 in the bank today offsets the $880 bandwidth bill nicely. :-)
      • Freso
        I need help: The Iain of http://www.footstompin.com/artists/alphabet/gk/... - which one of the Iain MacDonald's on http://www.footstompin.com/music/compilation/a_... is he?
      • ruaok has no clue
      • Why isn't cadalach a resident of this channel? :(
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      • chefkoch_AW
        chefkoch_AW is now known as chefkoch_MP
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      • Freso
        My brain hurts.
      • I hate people with the same name that are otherwise far too identical as well.
      • yllona
        :-D, please keep trying though, you do excellent work
      • Freso
        Bleh.
      • Freso pokes his infected eye out so that it doesn't itch... or something
      • yllona
        eek, you have pinkeye?
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      • Freso
        yllona: Possible. "Øjenbetændelse" in Danish. I don't know the specifics of it. My doctor prescribed some "Depot" earlier today... one drop in the eye, twice a day.
      • Should be gone in a week.
      • (I happen to have caught an ear infection as well, so I have to take drops there as well. Whee.)
      • yllona
        eh, that's "pinkeye" as we call it here. quite common, and very curable -- annoying though
      • you need rest, and avoid contact with small children. I swear toddlers are the true "weapons of mass destruction" -- pure germ/bacteria carriers :)
      • Freso
        yllona: I know how to handle it and what it is and such. I've had most common (minor) diseases at least once by now, so, yeah. :p
      • Usually I don't even go to the doctor for this, but it was just way bad this weekend, and I'd like my eye to be somewhat functional and healthy next weekend, before the next festival...
      • Anyway. Cadalach's been poked by e-mail regarding the pipers now, with a request for him to come here, on IRC, more often.