#musicbrainz

oh it's only like 5mb

4.5 MB, I should be able to with a bit of patience

great

wolfsong at endlessforest dot net

good evening

just got home from school :)

hi l8nite

Okay, I'llget uploading it now :)

thanks mustaqila

No prob :)

Not like I'm doing much else here, just watching US tv and being amazed at it lol

the genre bug is more a problem for me then bugs in the old version

LOL

why amazed? where are you?

The UK, it's just so different and amazing to me, like seeing a weather map of the US I was all :o and shocked

LOL

That and the accents, and then seeing the adverts too, it's like a new experience and I have no idea how to describe, it's just surprising and rather intriguing I guess

well we americans are inarguably a strange lot

Haha, I don't know, it's just different, but in a nice way, from what I've seen so far, and it's just really interesting

I use too many commas :\

nah

*ding* Mail for wolfsong

hey somebody sent me mail! ;-)

thanks again mustaqila

Hehe, no prob :)

wow

Hmm?

why did it take me so long to appreciate nina simone

have you seen The Thomas Crown Affair?

Nope :\

they VERY effectively use one of her songs in that

Hmmm, from her last.fm page I think it may be familiar due to bombardment of now playings by yllona

only the song

LOL

very likely

yllona has great taste

It's just not my cup of tea ;)

and is a wealth of knowledge

what's your profile on lfm?

mustaqila

Link for the lazy ;)

i can see why ;-)

Hehe, my taste is a bit heavier I suppose, but it does have it's moments

LOL

As much metal as I like, I refuse to ever let anyone slag off Shania Twain :)

she's a brilliant singer

Up! is rock solid

there's not one bad song there IMO

:D that and she's amazingly attractive

LOL

question: what is the simplest way to query to musicbrainz database using php to just return track listings for a given album?

no idea nwarner

may have to try a different time

okay, is there a simple way to query the database?

download it ;)

you can't directly query the db, only with the web and the rdf interface

fair enough.

is the mb_server or mb_client the module that i would want, considering i just want the data for searching on?

nevermind. :P

okay how about this: what is the simplest way to make an rdf query?

nwarner: http://projects.afterglo.ws/wiki/PhpMusicbrainz...

perfect. thank you Muti!

wb mustaqila

thanks

hey all

picard isn't cooperating with me

giving me an invalid pointer error

every time it tries to get something done

Short sleep...

not that short. i probably would have slept more, but einstein in my dream started losing his german accent and i just found it difficult to belive him and stay asleep

lol

By the way, what do think about these so-called studio live albums?

I just found some of my records in the "live albums" section of the artist page, and noticed that's the reason they are there.

Personally I hate the whole concept. Not too long ago that was the only way to make recordings, but we don't put every old record to "live" category.

i think if it's recorded without altering the sound of the performer, it should be considered live, but that's just my opinion

My opinion, on the other hand, is that if a record is "live", it should be recorded "in front of live audience".

I don't care how the record is done in studio, that's just methodology. But there is definitely a difference when you play for audience.

i imagine there are people in the same room, if not sound engineers then probably producers or corporate execs who came up with the idea of doing the in studio live album

Heh 8)

that doesn't necessarily make threm live though

*them

Well, if you think of it that way, every album is live. 8)

the corporate execs that is

that's why i define it by modification of sound using studio ecquipment

Is that a valid definition?

I seriously doubt that even those live albums are unmodified :P

if sound is modified then it's not live anymore. where would one go about looking for a valid definition?

Well, here. 8)

I don't think there is an "official" definition. It's a question of how we decide to define those terms.

or we could use this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Album that way you'd be right :P

that's totally the wrong way to use live

Well, it's more strict than even I would define, but it has the elements that I'd like to see in the definition.

I don't think live albums should necessarily be recorded in concert.

there you go. i guess by that definition if an artist can't get a large enough audience, then he can't put out a live album

Hehe 8)

awww, i didn't know eagles dubbed in cheering into hotel california, i always thought i heard live versions of the songs :(

nechto13: that's nothing

steve miller band is still playing their songs live

now the high notes are reduced one octave

so the old guys can sing them

;)

we have writing department now

write some fan fiction about video games

whoops

i thought i was talking to wteph in #freematrix

my mistake

i don't mind that. i can sympathize with the artists

it's just like, you don't always realise that the music can change

Yeah. I was once in a concert by a Finnish artist.

Between the songs he heard someone complaining that "it doesn't go like that".

So he said something like "Newsflash: It goes 'like that', I wrote the song. If you want to hear album versions, go home and listen to the record."

awesome

Which is sort of the way I think also. I like to hear and see musicians playing, not replaying something they have done previously.

i'm impressed to some degree by artists that can pull off a live sound which is mint like the record

but yeah

Yeah, that's something else. It still doesn't have to go like it does in the record.

I enjoy some variance, artist forgetting the lyrics and pulling something weird just to make it sound like he knows what he's doing and so on. 8)

One guy forgot his old song's lyrics completely, so he changed from Finnish to French in about mid-sentence.

classic

He had translated it into French recently, but it had been more than ten years since he had last been singing it in Finnish 8)

it's actually a good thing, sometimes an artist can try alternative version of the lyrics if they remember those instead of what's on the album

USA bands talk a lot of trash about how hard rock 'n' roll is in the states

i think finns do it best

what's that one band, um, The Gathering, and also Opeth