inhouseuk: I know what it is, I just never bothered to learn how to use it :)
yalaforge
memcached?
inhouseuk
oh, okay :)
nikki_
yeah
yalaforge
memcached is just set() and get(), basically
although the get() part doesn't always work :-)
ruaok
by design. :)
yalaforge
DB caches are too difficult for me. I won't touch them :-/
HairMetalAddict
get(some) if (exists $girlfriend);
Shepard
i guess perl would even accept this strange syntax
yalaforge
yeah. although 'some' would *usually* be a syntax error
Shepard
usually :)
yalaforge
unless you 'use constant', IIRC
HairMetalAddict
$* ;-)
nikki_
I love that syntax
stinky hated it, so I would use it at every opportunity just to make him cringe at my code :D
HairMetalAddict
Heh, I use similar if-statements regularly
nikki_ too
nikki_
die unless is my favourite though
HairMetalAddict
Hehe
inhouseuk
nikki_: there is one problem using memcached on a replicated server. If something has changed, you might not always see the latest. Because replication applies changes directly to the DB, the cached value doesn't get updated.
nikki_ hasn't got memcached installed
nikki_
which is partly why I haven't bothered to learn how it works :)
yalaforge
then the get() and set() commands are no-ops, IIRC
dave wrote nice wrappers around memcached
nikki_
didn't stop it spamming my apache logs :P
yalaforge
you can turn it off, I think
nikki_
hmm!
ruaok
thanks for forming that insta-sub-committee... want another little job?
yalaforge
me?
ruaok
(to all the sub-committe people)
yalaforge
nikki_: in DBDefs.pm: see CACHE_DEBUG
ahh
Shepard
silence... :)
yalaforge
depends on the job
ruaok
we had a request for HTML bits to create a search box that people can use to search MB. Anyone want to create an HTML fragment that we can give people to include in their pages?
yalaforge
yeah, sounds like a nice idea
chocomo
like the external yahoo /google type search boxes peopel can put on their webpages?
Shepard has a html application search page for searching MB :D
yalaforge
join me in #html-search ;-)
nikki_ thinks it should be nice valid xhtml, even if the rest of the web isn't
Shepard pulls out his sword and follows knight yalaforge
sbc/att off to a rocky start.. but when hasn't at&t been the center of attention
ruaok
I hope that companies will soon think: "Oh, we can't do that. The EFF will come after us."
forget the govn't coming after you.
teleGUISE
i'm sure verizon/mci will be next...
with those 2 you've covered I think 99% of all telecom traffic
it will be interesting to see how this pans out.. to see if it puts pressure on the big house for ordering it and as said 'letting the lawyers figure out what's legal and what's not'
teleGUISE: the trouble is they will attempt to classify it as ethical in the interests of national security
inhouseuk thinks spying is spying no matter who does it
ojnkpjg
spying is only spying if you get caught
yalaforge has quit
inhouseuk
and they've been caught!
ojnkpjg
i guess they were spying, then
teleGUISE
inhouseuk: of course... though i think the % is decreasing with our tolerance to accepting that 'excuse' for everything
inhouseuk
yes, the UK population is also going in that direction with some of the things the UK government is attempting to do as well
teleGUISE
wonder at what point the term 'fishing' transformed from a recreational hobby of water/rod/hook/bait to a computer/land based activity
ojnkpjg
i think when the f was replaced with the much cooler ph
it happened somewhere on AOL
around 1995
teleGUISE
pankkake: you can put/post your merge edit
pankkake
there was a problem because of the discid
teleGUISE
h
pankkake
"Error: these albums cannot be merged together, since they have disc IDs that belong to albums that have more or fewer than the 15 tracks that the merged album would have. "
teleGUISE
oh... ok about 9 minutes from now you can post it ;)
ojnkpjg
your clock is 3 minutes slow
teleGUISE
no... im giving the server 3 minutes to perform the edit ;)
SenRepus
hi tele
ojnkpjg
oh, ok
SenRepus
>.>
teleGUISE
Hey.. you put your memory in yet?
SenRepus
it hasnt arived, i thought you forgot
teleGUISE
WTF`
SenRepus
but ruaok saw me answer someone when they asked me my computer specs and sent me 3 sticks of 256MB
teleGUISE
i sent it last week..
SenRepus
i havent been in to check yesterday or today
teleGUISE
well it better have gotten there I spent $4.20 on it :)
SenRepus
i was hoping you forgot to send it so you could save the shipping cost -_- i feel bad for you sending me some RAM and then ruaok sending me better RAM
teleGUISE
hey..hey... whats up with this better stuff :)
good now you can send me a stick of 256
so did you put it in??
ojnkpjg
i bet someone just happens to have 4 sticks of registered ecc 256mb dimms lying around they have no use for
teleGUISE
dont think anything over 512 will be noticeable on ME
SenRepus
his 256s havent arrived yet either
teleGUISE
hope he didnt send it priority mail!
SenRepus
this just happend like saturday night
ojnkpjg
oh, i need your address, too
to send that cd
teleGUISE
seems like I should have just spent the $.39 instead of the $4.05 well $4.20 cuz I stuck an extra $1 stamp on a $3.20 metered
well his should have only took a day and mine 2.. so go to your damn mailbox!
SenRepus
im soooo sore and sooo tired from work thouhg -_-
maybe i should though
inhouseuk
awww
teleGUISE
Hey.. lazy butt... people are trying to speed up your sled.. get your ass to the mailbox :)
inhouseuk
SenRepus: maybe your mouse will be there as well
SenRepus
i hate you guys
^_^ naaa just kidding
teleGUISE
you needed one of those 2?.. could have sent that too.. though I guess that wouldnt have fit in the priority mail envelope to well
SenRepus
but seriously tele, i checked every day last week with high hopes and it nevershowed
no i broke my mouse after our last chat
i took it apart to try to make it work better and actually did the opposite
teleGUISE
was it laser or old skool?
inhouseuk
poor mouse, you killed it :(
SenRepus
im old school
teleGUISE
how the heck can you kill an old skool 'moose' ?
SenRepus
well, when i was little i took apart a copy machine for some guy
and he payed me for all the switches i could find in it
so i figured that the switches in a mouse were just like the ones in that machine only smaller
but they werent
ruaok
teleGUISE: I still have a stick of 256 if you want it.
teleGUISE
turn the little door that holds the ball.. let the ball fall out.. wipe the ball off with windex/spit/whatever.. take canned air blow inside mouse.. reinsert ball turn door all is fixed