#musicbrainz

Oh, wow. MB isn't the only site having had a make-over while I was gone, last.fm got one too!

:p

anybody alive on here?

can somebody attempt to use the edit-all to add a new track to the end of a release

obviously it needs to be done on one without a discid attached

okay, it can be done using the add track at the top of the release, but it is not possible in the edit-all editor

for fucks sake!!! Remove tracks are being automoded!!!!

o_O

actually, I was wrong, its a flaw with the edit list screen. It looks like the track has been deleted, when they actually deleted the edit

wow

i don't see the flaw

tracks are removed, edits are deleted

inhouseuk, it's not a flaw. "change applied" ?

isn't that what completed edits say?

indeed

perhaps it should say something like...

"Edit retracted" ?

yes

file a bug :)

I did and then cancelled it. I really can't be bother to arge

argue

re-submit it

I'll argue for you

VxJasonxV: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/1847

can someone help me with foobar, i'm overwhelmed :(

nvm finally got my panels to go as i wanted them

what is foobar?

a music player

that installs with little functionality and requires time installing and configuring plugins to make it as useful as winamp

roger

Since we don't have unified way to check album catalog numbers on other site and since we can use wiki syntax in annotations, wouldn't it be a good idea to create a facility/template in Wiki that would work like ISBN template works in Wikipedia, so user can actually click on catalog number in annotation and get some list of sites with URLs with that cat.no automatically appended to it?

what sort of BMG:a-bunch-of-numbers?

Aankh|Clone is now known as Aankhen``

bah

mondays

MartinRudat_, yeah something like this.

monday, bloody monday

hmm... to be truly effective, you'd need to know how to convert from catalogue number -> url for quite a few labels... though i suppose a good start would be just to go prod google with the label and catalogue number...

I, actually, would already add such template myself for japanese codes, I just can't think about good name for it.

For starters links to CDJapan/NeoWing and Amazon code based search would be good.

I don't know if MB's wiki allow complex "if"s, but if it does, conditional links to other sites could be just added to this template latter.

d'ya mean add to the wiki, or the annotations? 'cause the annotations are (currently) not anywhere near that level of wikification, afaik...

At least NeoWing's links are consistent and easy to create from code and they carry lots of japanese releases regardless of label.

Add template page to Wiki and then use this template in annotations.

...I think the wiki, though, would probably support doing complicated stuff like that, though...

I'm under impression that it would work.

Other Wiki stuff worked in annotations for me thus far.

I can try it right now, just have to think of good name for template. :) Or I can put experimental version in my user space.

hmm

now im curious

try that

Yeah, trying right now. Just remind me what should link be. Is http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/rowaasr13/JcodeTemp... ok?

probably, yes

Errr... is http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnTemplates all that documentation have on templates?

I hope they're same as on Wikipedia, then...

bah I thought you knew how to make them

:p

I know. I'm just not sure they're same.

rowaasr13: no they are not same as on wikipedia

+ you can't use them in annotations

Aw, too bad.

Isn't there a way to enable them or some other similar facility?

i don't think MoinMoin has something like that

but annotations use only very simple Perl module with wiki syntax

Hm, no templates at all?

there probably would be some plugin for MoinMoin

but definitely not for Text::WikiFormat, the module used in annotations

Is there any way to pass argument in URL to page in MoinMoin? That would work with this module.

hm, i don't know

How are wikiwords like Ticket: done? Can this be used for dynamic page generation?

no, that's just http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/InterWiki

Hm, http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnVariables seems not useful either.

Macros looks like they would work, but they won't solve simple syntax in annotation problem.

I suggested that 'twould be nifty to have inter-wiki style links in the annotations for Artist: Release: Track: and Wiki: ...if that actually gets implemented, adding Cat: wouldn't be all _that_ much harder, I shouldn't think...

Only Cat: should be somewhat conditional to list only sites that should carry that release. Or several versions of Cat: - CatJP, CatDE, etc...

Hmm... right now when you try to access non-existent page, some template loads with name of that page filled in several locations. Is there something in configuration that would allow non-existent pages with names matching some regexp to load different template from standard?

yarr!

...I'd think it'd be easier to have a 'catalog number' cgi, and just point at that, rather than trying to extend the wiki...

Yes, that's true. The only problem it wouldn't be as flexible, as all additions would be first first submitted somewhere.

However if somebody wants to quickly write one that would be really good.

It shouldn't be anything more than a page of perl anyway (or two, maybe if some arcane is required to print header/footer correctly)

I guess I'll add this RFE just a bit later to tracker. Maybe with listing of simple function that would return list of store name/link pairs for given code.

They will remain same, the only change would be that you will be able to click on cat no if it is linkified and you will get separate page with list of links to stores/information page that may have info/product with this code.

Is there an AR for "voiced" ?

Like an audio book?

Or should it be "performed vocals" ?

Speaker?

Oh, hang on.

Does that exist? :)

I think you're supposed to use the vocal.

"Performed vocal on: This more specific version designates artists who sang, spoke, rapped, or otherwise contributed using their voice on this work. The particular vocal role can be specified in the VocalRelationshipAttribute."

Yeah, there's no "spoke" type though. Oh well.