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http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/GuessCaseMode/Class... was written by clutcher2, so i guess it does the CSG justice

banyan: what i mean is you need to ask a more specific question

MartinRudat is now known as MingVase

good night martin

I'm looking for the composer of the funeral march that Shostakovitch was quoting in his funeral march aphorism.

you know, do-ti-do-la-ti-so-la...

It's a pretty famous one but I don't know who wrote it.

also, in Saint of the Pit by Diamanda Galas, the same bit was quoted.

anyone know what the name of the bit is, and the composer?

banyan: shostakovich's funeral march? is that funeral prelude, opus 130?

This is aphorism, the piano bit, it's about 45 seconds long.

banyan: what's the opus number of the piece that contains the aphorism?

Um, lemme see if I can find that.

Opus 13

And I think it's the 13th bit -- funeral march.

It's 45 seconds of pure brilliance, not the least of which it leaves you with this sense of triple entendre.

banyan: 13th piece? how could it be 13th if there are only 10 pieces in the opus?

Hmm, I have a Konstantin Scherbakov recording of it where it's listed as the 13th piece.

Sorry, it's the fifth one.

It's track 13! heh

Firstly, it has a theme woven into a bit of fast fingerwork, secondly it weaves the theme into chords at the end where the theme isn't the main melody, and thirdly it's actually from this other piece.

Actually -- I think it's #7.

The Danse Macabre.

banyan: the funeral march is piece number 7?

No, the danse macabre is #7, and it's the one I was actually thinking of.

I erred in saying it was the funeral march.

But I think the original is some kind of funeral march or misericor or some such sepulchral thing.

And it's even possible that the piece I thought he was quoting was something he himself wrote later.

MingVase is now known as MartinRudat

so, now that I have it sorted which piece I'm referring to, any ideas what the piece is that has the do-ti-do-la-ti-sol-la (rest) do-re-do-tl-la-sol melody?

banyan: hmm, dance of death... no i can't find the composer by whom shostakovich was influenced there, even if it was himslef, which i think would be most likely. but i wouldn't put my money on it

It's a choral thing, I think I've heard it before but I don't know if it's 1800s or 1900s.

and I think it's russian but don't know.

It's not Mahler's, Betthoven's or Mozart's.

Might be Chopin's...

Being as Shostakovitch had to do the Soviet's bidding, I expect it would have been a Russian bit.

LOL I am fighting such a losing battle!

banyan: i have to say that i can't think of any choral pieces that sound like they influenced this, even though i had 5 years of musical school in russia. so it's either i didn't carry much out of it or my brain turns to mush around 5am and i usually don't know it since i'm usually safely sleeping in my bed right about the time

Nyght: people keep adding the same disney albums to the DB because they can't find it under disney?

No... open moderations, we're over 7000 and I can't even get it down under 7000 even with approving!

Disney, like Under the Sea? or Fantasia?

Nyght: you're not approving album adds are you?

Thats' the disney he's referring to.

No Nechto, just approving ASIN's and spelling corrections, and that sorta thing.

you know, the shit that usually gets approved with lots of yes votes. ;)

I'm not bitching Martin, I just can't do much with the language barrier I hit with some of your mods. ;)

language barrier?

oh, well last time I looked at your mods, there was a lot of ... um, maybe it wasn't yours.. I thought there was a decent amount of classical or else Japanese/Chinese.. none of which is my knack

I guess Kerensky's were an oriental language and yours were classical!

Oh gods nechto13, you had to mention the time!

oh, well... I've got about 20 classical albums to enter, most from deutsche grammophon... I imagine that I'll be typing in quite a lot of german in the coming weeks...

banyan: try asking on a calssical music channel

suggestions?

see! Though out of all the languages I have the best grasp on german, even talk to some Germans. :)

good night everyone

night, rest well

I take it Nyght's working on what, CDDB submissions?

banyan, all the open edits, and then in my more insane moments Disney

That's got to be vast.

Nyght: Ich nein spreaken sie deutche... which is probably completely wrong.

Ich spreche kein Deutsch.

eh, we've got it (the bogus artist) down to about 42 albums.

Which is very good in my opinion.

Or ich spreche nicht Deutsch.

;) A little bit Martin. I'll forgive you.

Though, I understood it, just like I sorta understand German :D

or Ich rede nicht / kein Deutsch.

Hm, so does this server have a classical-specific channel?

I suppose I could go ask my dad if I really wanted to learn, or get a english/german dictionary...

The dictionary is just the words and vocabulary. The tricky stuff is where to put the words!

Martin, just start talking to someone from Germany, and keep your mind open

I'd imagine that this is the most musically-inclined channel on the server... well... I dunno about the musical taste of #debian, but it would be off-topic...

heh

um, banyan, not that I know of, but I'm not a classical moderator, even if I did do my first classical piece tonight.

I should go to a different channel.

sorry, different network.

And what banyan said about "where" to put the words is absolutely correct.

They, the German's think differently.

Nyght: yeah, but they all speak in english... and better than some of the people 'round here do too... =)

To the store, we go, their verbs go last.. or something like that.

true true

...same with most of the people from europe that I've talked with over irc, too...

we's jus' thoes lazy foos.. that tend ta drop letters without addin in punctuation so the apostrophe queen can paddle usses

yeah. I didn't even know Shep's native language wasn't English, just learned that the other day.

well have a good evening there banyan, or day, or time of 24 hour period. ;)

well... given the age at which people start learning a second or third language, it would be pretty reasonable to say that they speak english natively, too...

point, in a way I wish I grew up somewhere that wasn't so bound to English.

Where is that Nyght?

=)

banyan: I should go to a different channel.(4:08:30 AM) banyan: sorry, different network.

that was in reference to you shifting channels or networks. banyan

Oh, I can tell people off in other languages.. but, it's so much more fun to do it in one they understand!

heh.

Not like it serves any real point though :\

I think it's more the attitude than what you actually say, though...

Mornin' Joan

just reading the chatlogs to catch up and saw my name being taken in vain!

Dein pinga kunt embrasse' sein?

ah, but it's fun to do it with flair, so they have to stop and go.. huh? Oh, after they think about it. :)

morning muz

grml grml

ni hâo, Joan.

hi

G'day Shepard.

Mornin' Shep

morning martin and shep and beth

Oh... hi Joan!

uh oh.. I better be careful about name dropping, both shep and Joan are here!

only here because I saw the chat could be interesting

Do I take it, Nyght, that you and I are in the same time zone?

LOL well.. glad we're of interest Joan. ;)

Beth has a timezone?

hi mud

Wow, Beth seems to be here... always

Banyan, It's 4 am right now, Mountain time zone here.

muz... um.. learned from the best. ;)

Nyght: who do you thank here and for what? :o http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4797755

Hehe, I'm retired from that game now ;)

me probably shep

mornings

morning mudcrow

yeah well that sucks muz.

You are then.

someone had to take your place.

Nah, I happen to thoroughly enjoy my day job

Nyght: south or north of the 49th?

Shep, I was approving it. Had to add a note. Sorry.

sleep? sleep is for the decaffinated. =)

I'm in Colorado near Denver

sorry? hey I was just wondering :)

Sorry for confusing. :) I should just say approved.. but, I guess I feel thank you is more in order. :D