to be honest i caught the end of the whole thing so aren't really sure what the problemwas :)
yllona
ru: in the simplest sense a brochure, describing MB services/policy in plain simple language
ruaok
a paper brochure that people can pick up here in SLO?
Shepard
lol
ruaok
how do you make that online?
whats the online equivalent of that?
gecks
at discogs we've got this guy who reckons because he as copyright of teh artist name 'User', he can delete all other artists called 'User' (of which there are 10s)
yllona
keschte: that's a start, but it needs to easily available from the MB start page.
keschte
yllona: read the paper ruaok wrote, a pdf is as traditional as we can do it.
yllona
ru: no, it can be online, PDF is fine
ruaok
I somehow doubt that all the stupidity of labels can be fixed in one PDF when a bunch of web pages won't do that job.
keschte
yllona: and btw, i think the few paragraphs on the mb homepage are a good intro to what mb is about
yllona
MB needs an artist/label page, where all the info is linked in. if it already exists, point me to it.
ruaok
yllona: didn't you as some point try to start writing this intro?
keschte
and if someone does not grok that, he won't if we throw 100reds of pages at them
yllona
ru: i can do it. i just got a lot of negative feedback
ruaok
since you have a better grasph on what constitutes acceptable language, I'd love it if you could work on it.
yllona
along the lines of "labels suck.e tc". see above
ruaok
well, that intro is not just for the labels.
remove the word labels from when you ask for feedback. simple.
mudcrow
major labels do suck
ruaok hopes microlabels will put the majors out of business
yllona
ru: i agree, it's just taht i work with labels, and let me tell you these people are not stupid, and don't ever forget it.
keschte
isn't it as simple as that: we judge them from what we see from an endusers perspective (which we are)
ruaok
ok, so your labels are the exception that proves the rule.
gecks
major labels are just succesful labels, of course :)
ruaok
glad to hear that there are some labels that don't suck.
yllona
there's a big difference between the media pundits, and teh people doing the work, and that includes artists
nikki_
I saw a label guy adding stuff for a band they have
yllona
ru: many small (not indies) have conscientious employees and execs, trying to navigate the quagmire jsut like MB.
however, the reamining choke point still seems to be distribution (as it's aleays been)
*always been, back to the days of sheet msuic publishing in the 18th century
so all i'm saying, is make MB easy to understand for a traditional industry, with long standing practices, i'm not saying that their modus operandi is efficient. but neither is MB (yet). :)
you have to help them understand why MB is important (and useful).
ruaok
yllona: not arguing with you on any of those points.
but, first I want to see wikidocs come to fruition.
once it does we can see how to fix and improve it.
inhouseuk
MB can actually be good (free) advertising for the smaller labels with limited distribution. They can add their artists and provide links to where people can purchase the music
yllona
okay point me to the latest, and i'll take stab at a simple "what is MB?" doc, as a PDF
nikki_
YAY! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!
yllona
gawd knows i've done it enough times over the phone.... ;)
inhouseuk
happy birthday nikki
yllona
happy b'day nikki
mudcrow
happy birthday Nikki :)
Shepard already said and goes to bed :P
Shepard
night
nikki_ dances
mudcrow
night shep
Shepard has quit
nikki_ tries to work out how to get into her present from shep
nikki_
he's parcel taped all the gaps
ruaok
happy birthday, madam nikki_ !
did he send hanutas?
nikki_
madam? :o
I don't know
I haven't got into it yet
yllona
inhouseuk: yes to your point about distribution. but that's not easily grok'd from the available documentation
Happy birthday nikki. Shouldn't you go to bed now? ;)
Muz
Happy day nikki
nikki_
Kerensky97: oh no!
yllona
ru: does that include that include teh latest on SRG5 or the schema?
Kerensky97
That's right, college students don't have the luxury to differentiate between night and day.
nikki_
I'm in!
Muz
Kerensky97, I think that's computer users in general
Kerensky97
:D
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yllona will be back in 15
ruaok laughs at the vista screen shots
ruaok
same stupid interface made over to look more like a mac.
Muz
It's not even that
It's worse
And WMP11 is all the crapness of WMP10 wrapped up in a crappy "mac like" bui
*gui
ruaok
with any luck M$ will unravel with vista.
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nikki_
AWWWwwwww
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Joan_W
Happy Birthday Nikki
nikki_
hi joan!!
Joan_W
hi nikki
nikki_
happy automodding if you decide to!
inhouseuk
congratulations Joan
keschte
nite...
Joan_W
thank you inhouse and nikki
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nikki_
awwwwwwww! shep sent me a really sweet present!
Joan_W
what did he send?
Rexroom has quit
nikki_
a cute little squirrel! (among other things)
Joan_W
a fluffy one?
nikki_
yeah!
with an acorn!
Joan_W
great
at least it won't get hungry!
nikki_
my mouth hurts from grinning
Joan_W
hey - it never hurts to be happy
nikki_
this time it does ;)
mudcrow
congratulations Joan
Joan_W
thank you very much mudcrow
I have just entered my first mod but have turned automod privileges off as I said I would - anyway it's a promo single, so I thought it should be voted on
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everybody is quitting - is it me?
inhouseuk
joan, did you see the result of the election? 33 yes, 6 no
nikki_
you had 33 people voting yes, you should have more confidence in your editing!
and 2 abstains
er
3
Joan_W
yes - I did, but deliberately did not stay by the computer until a little later
mudcrow
thats the most yes votes I've seen
Joan_W
I probably will over time nikki, but the kerfuffle on mb automods mailing list has slightly knocked the confidence out of me
nikki_
that's the most votes I've ever seen, mudcrow
Joan_W
mudcrow - I seriously think that might have been a backlash against the campaign waged
but, don't look a gift horse in the mouth - I have benefitted by it
Anyway, the real reason I came on here tonight was to say thank you very much to all my friends on MB who voted for me. I really do appreciate it