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well i'd rather add to the load than to duplicate "real" data everywhere

as in i'd rather compute inherited values than to actually store them as basically duplicates

People can donate to pay for more mice to run the little wheels inside the servers.

the advantage is obvious anyway

it's like with SQL views

if you change the parent value then all child values that are inherited change automatically with it

Of course. Although there's some point in also adding redundancy - real-life database are rarely in some normalized form that doesn't include any redundancy.

the only troublesome situation would be where you need to 'break up' the inheritance

In this case there's no need for that, though.

then you would need to apply the inherited value as a real value for each child item

and eventually remove it from one or more of them

that's a somewhat complex procedure in relative terms

Because the choices are basically "add an album relationship" or "no relationships at all" - most of the people won't add AR's for every damn track in totally cover albums.

There are of course other AR's that could (and should?) be inherited.

hmmmm

well

this also brings to mind how much the clients should do or not

For example, if we one day get to the point that there's actually some information about the roles of the musicians in the band, it would make no sense to add that information to every track.

srotta: you can basically emulate inheritance to some degree completely client-side

take as an example the webservices results

Of course, and it should be done there, if there are clear rules on how to apply it.

there is no extra <artist/> element per track, because it's identical to the album artist

the artists roles in a group is already on test

so you can emulate the inheritance entirely client side by applying the artist id ane name for each track yourself

srotta: yeah the clear rules part is the problemmatic one

i ahd some discussions with luks before i was sure how and what i can and should actually do with some types of the XMLWS results

Well, I added a link to this discussion in a note

Somebody who cares more than me can make sense of it and figure out what to do =D

dholmes you could have linked to the chatlog http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2006/2006-08/20...

Oh, heh

;)

Musicbrainz rocks =D

Wanna adjust one of the corner stands or slip a book or something under it.

worked for my washing machine.

...

Hehe.

Goodnight

Hmh. I got a USB cup warmer when I bought an external hard drive.

:P

dholmes: btw about this display identical albums separately

i'd have thought iTunes is more intelligent

but it seems bmpx beats it in that heh

i didn't know they index only by name

Hello

So I just did a very stupid thing

I was highlighting my music files to transfer them to my mp3 player

And *whammo* you deleted them?

after I had highlighted all the ones I wanted, I see this song called "led zepplin - no quarter"

and I think "I gotta fix that"

so now all my files are called led zeppelin - no quarter

including album folders

ugh

:(

now you can only sort them out by acoustic fingerprints

is there anything I can do? cause now I'm looking at 900 files and folders with the exact same name

maybe system restore. Even though I doubt that has anything to do with this

question mark after "maybe system restore"

try analysing them with Picard and see if it has a fingerprint for them. if not, you can try the old tagger which uses a different fingerprinting system (we have still more of those IDs)

I could always run the tagger on the mall, but that would take ages and ages

ok, I'll try that

what OS?

XP

fucking hell

ah, don't think there's a way to undo any file renames

the moment my comp suddenly froze for a period of time I was like "no way XP is THAT shit"

yay

well msot of them are tagged from before, so running them in winamp would get real file names

for most of them

they still have the correct ID3 data?

probably

but not nearly all of them

well then restoring them names shouldn't be a big problem with the tagger, just a lot of work

precisely :(

could be worse ;)

not really

I wonder if anyone has ever done this in such a large scale before

hey, my music folder contains nearly 11000 files, *that* would be a problem :D

I have no idea how many music files I have.

way too many!

I think I accidentally duplicated some too ¬_

¬_¬ even

one-eyed pirate!

Arrrrr!

Neil is now known as mud

can anyone acess this site http://www.freewebs.com/danepakfc/index.htm I'm having probs with this comp accessing some websites

works fine

thanks, its a prob with this comp then :(

I have infinity + 1 music files!

damn you win

i have 11k on my comp, plus 25k on a harddrive from my old comp

And thus, I also have the largest genitalia!

elephantitus

why can i connect to some sites not not others?

slaadpwn

That's right. My genitals are like a portable seating device!

Your genitalia aren't big enough, that's why mud

Backbone issues, mud? Or DNS issues.

huh? me no speak the geek

*two* people posting poetry on the mailing list :o

Your doohicky won't connect to the whatsit, mud.

wtf nikki?

?

poetry?

yes

WTF

link plz

stefan posted a poem and then mika posted a haiku

uh, somewhere on mb-users

¬_¬

well, I don't have a link to it any more than you do

"this is musicbrainz, home of music-metadata, *not* musicbrainz, home of lyrical convention"

muz: I don't have time

mom comes home to morow on a wisit

:o

hot to do stuff

bb

I need a definition of 'moose' for the slang page

please a short one :)

highly adorable and almighty creatures?

Moose are the universal verb!

Shepard: I guess at this stage, you could define the moose as being the unofficial musicbrainz mascot

mascot - "A person, animal, or object believed to bring good luck, especially one kept as the symbol of an organization such as a sports team."

hm! I need the link to the picture again