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Just make a short anotation that describes the way you think it should be and change your local tags manually for now. Then we can start an offical standard in the right channels soon.

:P

Alright.

Do know the script was a bit of sarcasm.

It needs to be discussed and a standard made but it will be a big discussion when it happens. There are alot of issues to hammer out.

Well.

If my senior year of high school doesn't take up all my time.

I'll gladly help out.

Well I'm on your side, when we take this to the mb-style I'm comming looking for you to back me up. ;)

Gladly.

yes

:O

just tested :D

mine aren

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god, I'll be glad when I can use my own keyboard again

you've set it to english layout again, right?

no

oh?

the layout is evil

then shouldn't you make lots of typos now?

well, I keep switching

just to confuse yourself

I can't type ���� without the german layout

and either way ' is hard

because I keep hitting the enter key by accident :(

oh, you did change to german layout on your mum's notebook too?

yes!

:o

I mostly prefer my british layout for ' � and /

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I prefer my german layout with some added magic :P

but I like the german one for ; : and ���� and �� etc.

I don't like having to do shift 7 for /

hi rowaasr13!

Greetings.

Anyone wants to take part in yet another "I want english caps" discussion on SAC OST2? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5414188

privet, or something which I can't type in cyrillic because mirc sucks.

rowaasr13: we are already discussing it here :)

heh, it's already been happening in here

Hmm, mIRC you say. Let me try: Привет

I can see that

but I can only type latin1

rowaasr13

Hi.

Enough people are agreeing with me.

seems that mirc is too stupid to accept unicode input, just whatever the current codepage is

Kthx.

That's because mIRC -is- stupid.

I can use both 日本語 and русский in mIRC.

hmph.

I tried japanese and it just spewed lots of ?????

????

Try View->Font->Unicode->Display and Encode.

rowaasr13: The SAC OST2 edit war is starting a official standard for this kind of situation.

(Yeah, that's strange place for it).

日本語？

nikki: ???? I thought you were just confused.

русский！

I see both.

ok, that's silly

why not just let me use it in the first place ?_?

thanks though :o

Landus, you're not the first one to try to change that and standard - use authors spelling is well estabilished already.

?

hmpf

It isn't the authors spelling.

Sorry, but WHO called it "rise" or "GET9" then?

Dunno.

Whoever it was, it wasn't official.

Why then all of JVC/Victor, Kanno's page and ORIGA's page list it as "rise"?

Of course none of those have anything official to do with this song, right?

Probably because the Japanese symbols for 'rise' will output 'rise' or 'RISE' depending on how their converted.

Please. I use henkan every day and no, it doesn't works like that.

Your claiming the cleartext conversion of Japanese to English to be 'official'.

It is not conversion. This album, except 4 songs, have latin titles.

It is conversion.

Take the symbols for 'Yoko Kanno' and throw them in a converter.

Just because you wants it to be so?

Unless the converter is programmed to recognized those symbols as a name.

It's going to show 'yoko kanno' or 'YOKO KANNO'.

Huh? You don't have any experience with japanese IMEs, do you?

Some.

Nothing that's worth bragging about.

Sorry, but this sounds to me just as stupid as stories about bears with vodka and balalaikas in Moscow.

But, I do have decent understanding on the Japanese language works.

lol rowaasr13

There is nothing to represent uppercase and lowercase symbols.

It's like trying to build technology with a number system with no 0.

It can't be done.

It's a math thing.

The same thing applies here.

So? How's that related? "rise" have latin name and mixed latin/cyrillic lyrics. How that relates to k&k at all?

I never mentioned anything German.

No, I didn't.

hah!

it would be possible to create technology based on roman numerals :)

an ancient version of knoppix has enabled me to finally see my xfs partition

Yes, if you had a symbol representing value_nodef.

Which is what 0 is.

The only disputable tracks (in virtual Latin script entry) would be 4 and 13, because they're in katakana and don't have personal pages in booklet with latin title.

Everything else either in latin from very begining or have page in booklet with latin title.

Look at like this.

If "i can't be cool" and "I CAN'T BE COOL" will translate into the same Japanese symbols.

Is there anything drastic about having proper capitalization.

the cover says "i can't be cool"

Since the conversion is English.

Which is a botched job.

So? You telling me that whoever called those songs can't tell latin upper case from lower case?

The lowecase 'i' proves it.

Sorry, but you don't have monopoly over english.

yet the title for track 4 is アイドリング

No.

I don't.

But when the conversions are IN THE ENGLISH LANGAUGE, certain rules apply.

there IS no conversion for that particular track.

For O.S.T. 2?

There is.

Idoling.

for idoling, yes, not for "i can't be cool"

a i so ri n ... mmm

crap, I don't know that last character

gu.

gu

Idoling is track four.

and I mixed up a few others

3rd is do, not so.

rowaasr13: Sorry, but you don't have monopoly over english. <--- But at musicbrainz we do. If we don't than the "Guess Case" button needs to be abolished because it has changed tracks from how they appear on the CD. Same with Classical naming standards.

I can see the argument when it's the official version of the titles, but this is the version with transliterations

I'm getting better :)

a i do ri n gu , idoling? I see

Kerensku97, only tracks that need standartizing - those inconsistent among releases/mediums should and must be standartized. Everything else is authors intent and even MB documentation says that you should not change it.

Prove that it's the author's intent, beyond what's on the cover.

The cover could've easily been a hackjob at converting the names to English.

Which is what I've been saying since I woke up today.

I've seen alot of trance VA albums that were all lower case, many titles didn't exist anywhere else, but they had to fit the capitalization standards.

It is on several different official sites of one company and two different people, consistent in several different releases. It also consistent with other medium: namely it is exactly how it is shown in OP sequence in S.A.C. 2nd GIG.

...

if that's the rule of thumb, there are a lot of releases that need fixing

because of consistent capitalization of words like 'and' and 'of' and others

and releases where tracks are always in lowercase

i've always wondered why transliterated japanese titles got a pass on the style guidelines

What conversion, Landus? Once again, there are only 4 tracks in kana. 2 of them have latin titles on personal pages. All others are IN LATIN ONLY. They don't have any japanese names.