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If a "limited edition" version of a game comes with a bonus music CD, is that album "Official", because it was paid for, or "Promotion"?

Official, after looking more closely at the guidelines

nevermind ;)

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Hm

Then again it was also released as a promotion later on

These should be associated with release events rather than albums, really...

Is there any way to search for "Add Relationship" edits of a particular type - e.g. all AmazonASIN add relatioships

dholmes: even though this isn't my area i suspect that it should be two releases in your example, one "official" and one "promotion"

Even though both albums are exactly identical? That would make each Disc ID and PUID lookup collide

Which I guess is tolerable

hmm, is it virtually the same disc that was released as "promotional" later?

Yes, it's exactly the same

ouch

In Japan it was sold as part of a limited edition package of a game

In America it was given away with the game by stores when preordered

Really, the MB database schema just needs to be changed so that release titles can be associated with release events rather than releases

Is there anybody around who's very familiar with the MB database and its performance?

Hm...

So if I want all my weird obscure crap to have PUIDs, I have to use a proprietary program and the data is never available to the public? Hmm...

dholmes, ?

I was just reading about how the PUID system works

having to use the mixer?

Yeah

Or whatever other tools they make

wheee

"2 to validate"

down from 320

Can anybody tell me where discussion of future MB database schemas can be found?

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:O wtf

new angra album and you didn't tell me

dholmes: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/NextGenerationSchema and http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ObjectModel

Thanks

Yeah, I was looking at the first one

I don't suppose there are ever any meetings of MB developers on this side of the pond? Germany is far away :(

well the big boss is on your side of the pond ;)

I suppose he is indeed

Aw yeah

is there some heuristic which says accent-only changes are applied immediately?

yes

luks: the pud_submit.py script is yours, yes?

yes :)

does it only submit PUIDs which are already tagged onto the files, or does it attempt to find PUIDs for files which don't yet have them?

it will fingerprint all the files, so they don't need to have PUIDs in tags at all

but they need to have MB track IDs in tags

quick question

too slow.

:P

anybody have any suggestions for english (latin-1) parenthesis vs. unicode (japanese'ish) parenthesis?

luks: will it add PUID tags to the files, or submit them only?

only submit them

VxJasonxV, If the rest of the text is Japanese, use the Japanese. If the rest of the text is latin, use latin =D

what if it's all mixed?

luks: or at least it will, once I figure out why it isn't authenticating properly

Then it's time to commit seppuku

黑豹 Hei Bao (Black Panther) ?

Ew.

yeah

In that case I would leave them Latin

Because the text they surround is latin

Does the text all appear like that on the actual album?

I would leave them as they are on the cover ;)

no idea

I suspect the translations shouldn't even be there in that form

same

ah, let's be mean to my poor computer, ogging and fingerprinting the entire collection simultaneously

And it should be split into two albums and use that new AR

we don't have that "new AR" yet :)

I didn't say it should be done this instant =D

But damn... My collection is pretty diverse, but I don't have any chinese heavy metal =D

morning all

You there Luks?

yes

Got time for a question?

sure

What format should the artist ID and album IDs be?

I'm getting URLs that return what looks like RDF

Is that right?

That's an album ID

it should be only the UUID part

2e9a47a2-b945-4d49-b550-85c4a285322e

Do I have to parse that, or am I requesting it wrong?

there is a function to extract it from the URI

Oh, ok.

How is that useful? Can you look it up on the Musicbrainz site?

Is it mb_GetIDFromURL that I need?

ah, yes

Ok.

well, MB IDs in tags are useful if you want to update tags

and some players use them to group albums

Can they be looked up on the website, or can you only do it via the client library?

they are always in the URL

Ok, cool

Quick Sort Order question: "Bill Leverty's Wanderlust" is the full band name. Sort order would be?

I would leave it like that

I'm thinking the same.

Needed some verification before adding. :-)