#musicbrainz

is there a semantic difference?

ojnkpjg: between 'self' and 'this'? not in perl

ok

just making sure

Shepard: it's already there

because i'd have been very confused if there were :\

oi show me

please

one second!

that's what i like about perl

they do everything they can to make it hard for you to read code

this link is only for shep, guys ;-)

ojnkpjg: it's the same in python, you could even call it 'foo'

oh!

well, i don't like python, anyway :P

yeah, but in python it's somehow 'standard'

yeah, i stick to one way of doing things and do it that way everywhere in my code

in perl, OO is somewhat an afterthought

or else you can't read your own code after about a year

yes

Shepard: you're not nagged? ;-)

yalaforge: and multiple user types are separated by ", "?

no, by space. that's the standard way of making URI lists in XML

i don't even know what that means

Shepard: not nagged for a donation

people who already donated shouldn't be nagged

or automods according to ruaok

well I donated

brav :-)

yalaforge: with the new ws is read only access without authentication still possible?

yup, of course

okay, just checking :)

only trm submission and requesting your nagging status is authenticated :-)

Is it ok, to vote no on this moderation (with a kind note)? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4221483

hmm, it should definitely be cleaned up or voted down

depends on what you want to do

albums already in db here http://musicbrainz.org/album/e043d517-6d5c-477f...

then you can vote 'yes' and enter a merge mod.

yea right thanks

the target album has to be the correct one, btw

for the trm's?

sure

yes, and DiscIds. they could be added to the album while the mod is open

never done before but ill try

post the mod then

k

bravo mudcrow bravo!!

for?

your argument on DVDs is dead on

lol thanks

brunft: if you link to the style guide in a mod note, please tell also tell the user what is wrong about their mod

s/tell// :-)

inhouseuk has changed the topic to: http://musicbrainz.org/ | http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowToSearch and http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowToMerge need writing

i do that most of the time, but if nothing of the added album satifies the style guide i only post the link

ok

brunft: how you doing with that merge or do you need some assistance?

merging can be a tricky business if you haven't done it before

i've now selected batch operation in The Residents with the two albums selected

great

ok. now move the target album to the top

hit merge albums first

done

which option?

leave attributes unchanged?

yes, they can always be fixed on the target album afterwards if they arn't already correct

ahh. I thought there's a new button on the merge menu :-)

brunft: well done. now make sure the add album mod on the source album isn't rejected

nikki_: moin!

moin!

yup, i understand

brunft: add a note to the add album mod telling that you're voting yes and that you've entered a merge mod

I've actually been awake a few hours, but I was so cosy and couldn't be bothered to get up

k

but then I fell out of bed and figured I ought to get up

:-)

I'm used to having either a double bed or a bed with one side next to the wall

A bunkbed : P

wolfsong: hah, it doesn't happen very often

what have I started...

yeah

:P

ideal solution

who is going to write that priv removal script?

how hard is it, yalaforge?

depends on what you're going to do. if it's just testing for login, then it's trivial

the last login date is in the moderator table

it's just an UPDATE statement, I guess

what about if it sets for mods?

then you'll have to join with moderation_all, filter out moderations that would have been automods anyway etc.

I'd start with the simple solution :-)

oh, and don't disable modbot ;-)

isn't modbot a bot rather than an automod?

yeah, I think you're right. there's a bot flag

phone

I think that was put in for automated submission of mods, like the surge radio stuff

User type: Internal/Bot User

so space separates user types? not good :)

huh?

in the webservice

hmm?

Shepard: the user type is http://musicbrainz.org/ns/ext-1.0#Bot

ah

ok

so Internal/Bot User is just a label

yup

the types are stored using a bit mask, IIRC

ah

nikki_: mb_server/admin/cleanup/FixFeaturingArtists should be a good starting point

ok

opentime in moderation_closed and moderation_open are TIMESTAMP type, you can do a simple if last moderation opentime in both tables < TIMESTAMP 'NOW' - INTERVAL '6 months'

surely mod_open won't be older than 6 months...

true

mod_open is not relevant, I think. we're talking about automods ;-)

yalaforge: but an automod might have been active doing nonautomods

yes but they may have a merge mod or something open

but if that's their own mod in 6 months...

that would make the 6 months limit two weeks shorter max. :-)

anyway, just use moderation_all, that a view combining open and closed mods

ah, good point

brunft: you can vote 'yes' on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4221483 now :)

"Status: Change applied" :)

it was a old mod. inhouseuk's yes applied it, I think

doh!

u confused me bit now :)