#musicbrainz

BGreeNZ: ah, I didn't know that still existed, it probably needs taking down

I found a link to it on http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/WikiMigrationBot . Obviously, a spambot found that link too ;-)

it seems so :(

Hope there is / was nothing important on that wiki.

night

night Shepard.

teleGUISE_: http://www.mb.inhouse.co.uk/topcountry.html

COOLNESS.. that was pretty quick

it wasn't difficult

wasnt sure if the code would be but also impressed on the time for it to run wasnt that long then as well

it runs the query when you hit the page, it's done on the fly

now someone else can try to make a pretty image representation of it ;)

nikk likes doing things like that

s/nikk/nikki

interesting to me... i would have never thought some of the contries and the amount of release in the db there are

this is also interesting http://www.mb.inhouse.co.uk/toplang.html

s/Baa/Da/

Oooo a sheep hasselhof !

somewhat resembling the totals of release country

also http://www.mb.inhouse.co.uk/topartists.html

wow... i know not accurate but even adding the totals with release dates it's a low percentage total compared to the 300,000 in the database... maybe 25% if lucky

so some 225,00 albums need release date & country info added.. that's depressing

110792 entries in the release table

some albums will have more than one

yea thats why i guessed around 75,000 from 300,000 total

75 might be low.. might be 80 or 85

still well over 200,000 that don't

oh crap my eyes must have been blurry... its 370,000 albums

hmm it'd be nice if the track parser could take a cddb record directly :)

you could always cut paste and parse your freedb upload and add it to MB right away

yeah that's a pain :)

I'm all about automation :)

this stuff is in ascii files for a reason :)

it is automated... ctrl-a/c/v done ;)

x 20

:(

well you said you uploaded it to freedb so whatever you uploaded to freedb should be able to be parsed ... no?

so mb is enabling freedb :)

what i meant was i assume your using some ripper that uploads to freedb ... whatever is uploaded to freedb can be cut & pasted into the parser

format looks like http://www.freedb.org/freedb/folk/ed0d3012

yes, and if I paste it into the parser, it is not parsed. I'd have to pre-parse it which kinds of defeats the purpose :)

I'm just thinking aloud...

you only have the xmcd.. i thought you could cut & paste your track listing...

like whats displayed when played with foobar/winamp or whats ripped through cdex, eac...

only when it retrieves the info from freedb, the album hasn't got on their yet

there

no i meant whats displayed in the window when ripping or whats displayed when you load a playlist

can't usually cut & paste that whole thing

I guess I'm some kind of freak with pre-ripped CDs and cddb files for all of them lying around :)

er, xmcd files... whatever

I didn't know about mb when I started :)

neither did I. Over a period of a few months I put my collection on MB and re-ripped / tagged them

why re-rip?

the first thing I do now when I get a new CD is add it to MB or correct the entry if it's already listed

you can just take your xmcd load it into cuemaster export it to a text file and then c&p

although I may re-rip; I thought cdparanoia was saving me but turns out one of my drives does not give consistent rips :(

I just wish there were better linux tools

mb is really cool, and the backend & technology seems great, but the user apps seem like they could use some help?

sandeen_: I re-ripped because I wanted to re-encode them anyway. some of them were very poor qualilty

ah, I encoded all of mine to flac & archived on dvd

nice

Pig's Eye LandingOx Wallow02:02:44

Pig's Eye LandingCherokee Shuffle Set03:55:16

then re-encoded to mp3, until I got my squeezebox :)

etc

teleGUISE_, simpler to wait 'til tomorrow morning when it shows up :)

oh... that takes the fun out of it...

I wrote some perl around the cddb lookup tools to query cddb for the "best guess" then go to allmusic.com and get reasonable metadata

so the metadata is all in pretty good shape; I wish I'd tagged with which drive did the ripping though :(

I do similar with perl scripts grabbing the data from mb

anyway.. if you haven't used it... cuemaster makes working with cue,xmcd files a piece of cake.. imports/edits/exports to csv,txt,html,xml etc..

sound windows-y

yuck

oh yea... you were running *ix

i can't imagine managing a music collection without a nice set of scripts :)

but that's just me.

insert CD, run script and go to make a coffee :)

never tried it but cuetools might do the same thing under ix

ah and now it is in freedb and I can import :) see, just had to BS long enough

inhouseuk, have you seen mp3lint?

u rstill ip under *ix inhouse?

teleGUISE_: yes

sandeen_: nope, I haven't looked at it

windows == pure evil

hmmm... thats one thing i still prefer windoze for ... paranoia library is fine but still not perfect and not any full featured *ix tools that are like eac

I was thinking "hm, lint for an mp3 collection would be nice..." and googled, well, somebody wrote it already. not sure it's still uptodate though

I don't quite get what eac does that paranoia doesn't... although I did have my er, problem with one drive

teleGUISE_: with good drives cdparanoia is fine

yes...by all means its definitely top notch.. just not quite eac simplicity, functionality and ability to be absolutely sure...

abcde + cdparanoia made things really simple for me; abcde is a huge bash script but it seems to work just fine :)

teleGUISE_: have you ever used cdparanoia on unix?

yes...

a friend of mine has a 150-cd robotic-arm data cd jukebox; he uses that for ripping. unfortunately he only uses cddb for input

I need to borrow it and fix that part :)

teleGUISE_: the problems with eac for me are, it's winshit only, it's closed source, you can't script it, it can't use MB for data input

point well taken... if that wasn't the case we might have a eac for *ix and an eac that used mb already

you can script it... to a point...

so what would eac for linux do - provide an unscriptable ripper?

I don't get what eac does that is so magic

getting quite geeky and tweaky but you can adjust offsets

last i remember there was nothing under *ix that does

why would I need to adjust offsets?

to calibrate the rip to your drive... since all drives arent created equal..

cdparanoia has cdparanoia has 3 offset shifting options...

all drives dont start from the same point

-t --toc-offset number

-T --toc-bias

-O --sample-offset number

and cdparanoia has no trouble locating the start of the track according to the TOC on my drives

inhouseuk, if you "calibrate" it there are other db's with checksums of what you "should" get

again never recall that being there when i played... and havent used those functions so i dont no its equality related to the way eac does

only if you have the identical pressing they used to get the checksum

well, eac being The Shit, I don't suppose anything else can come close :)

i said geeky and tweaky.. the actual start may be handful of samples off..

yes we are talking way less than a second... but

Was the new Picard released today?

windows == pure evil

eac is just the shit when it comes to windoze thats all...

hehe

and run gentoo

well of course if you have a Plextor then Plextools is really kick ass..

hm more windows stuff

and even a little better then eac

hey i cant help it that hardware geeks dont know how to talk to software geeks and make shit for *ix

Malnilion: the latest picard was released a few weeks ago

besides Linksys

Interesting.

some guy wrote pxlinux to do what plextools does, and plextor went after him

.... oh just cuz they didnt think of it first, bastards

Malnilion: latest version here https://musicbrainz.helixcommunity.org/

see it sucks theres too many doze users to effect plextor .. dont know why they couldnt work with the guy.. it only works with their hardware so its not like they would be spinning their wheels without a reward...

I think it was because it was using an undocumented feature on the drives

so .. if they felt it might cause reliability problems tell the guy hey... dont use function xy and we have no problem with you making your soft available

the real world doesn't work that way

yes.. i know... BIG companies are just dumb sometimes...

they forget how they became big

the big companies are out to make money, they don't care how they do it, even if they piss off customers

thats why i like working with some off companies with potential many times cuz they are still agressive ... and work with you

yes its all statistics.. they know how much they can piss off before it affects the bottom line.. and with things changing all so quickly what pissed you off yesterday will be forgotten a month from now when the same company has the latest and greatest whatever

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