#musicbrainz

by increasing depth on track lookups you get all albums attatched to it's artist but not the album where the track is on

yeah

I had the same issue

solution.. just use FileInfoQuery

I thought I could write a small program that does FindTrack for data tracks and then examines their albums if they appear at the end

isn't there a report for that already?

wouldn't that be easier to do locally on a copy of the database?

and I remember nikki_ mentioning there is one album with a song named data as the last track

I didn't want to set up mods automatically then, don't worry

and a local copy of the db.. no that's not easier for me :)

hmm, didn't realize how big the database dumps were

not very helpfull this report

how is the audio signature calculated?

http://musicbrainz.org/docs/20031108-2.html I think

or http://www.relatable.com/tech/trm.html

This step is performed by the MusicBrainz client software (mb_client and tunepimp modules).

thats a bit vague :)

if you want the exacts, you could look at the code ;>

damn, i was hoping i wouldn't have to do that :)

basically it's spectral analysis, fft, some beat detection and then some magic in reletable's blackbox server :)

wow, so even magic is patented now (and I thought the patent offices couldn't go any lower)

well the generation of the TRM id is closed source :/

yes

Shepard: what are you trying to do?

doing a track search for the term "[data track]", then looking up the track listings for the albums they are on (well seems to be not possible) and then generate a list of the albums where the data track is at the end

because I'm too lazy to go through the complete list of the [data track] search

what's wrong w/ http://musicbrainz.org/reports/generated/Superf... ?

but as it was not possible to write such a program quick there is no effort saved now

dseomn: it does not list the same

it also lists albums with "(video edit)" and such at the end

ok

wow now that's a complete collection: http://www.night-collection.net/

hi djce!

brb: prepping dinner

Shepard: which things do you think should be excluded from the data track reports?

dunno, I just wanted to do a small special list for setting up mods

but there tend to be very few

'cause people catch them too soon...

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yeah i sometimes go through the [data track] search but i do not look at every album

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g0llum: hi

g0llum: hi

hey

The menu change stuff is done, I think:

not reachable

ok wait a mo...

?

hehe

:)

forgot to turn on wildcard dns?

I don't know what the problem would be at the moment.

nvm, /me forgot that privoxy with tor always shows the ip as 127.0.0.1

I do see different ips for djce and dev-mb.djce, is that correct?

djce: i have something which is not yet in the APR branch. to degrade gracefully if no JS is available, i've created a 2nd row with the menu items. we need to render those unless you're looking at /index.html like here: http://g0llum.dyndns.org/artistpageredesign/New...

ok, firewall fixed now AFAICT.

dseomn: I don't know what you mean.

djce.org.uk. 86265 IN A 195.60.17.253

djce: looking good. which branch is that?

APR-Navigation-BRANCH

:)

It all seems ok apart from when JS is disabled.

Is that what you were alluding to above?

yeah

then the content in the <noscript> section should show

The odd colouring of the about/news/products/browse etc boxes?

oh. been a while since i tested without script support

If you pick some page and then keep reloading it (with JS turned off), then the boxes seem to highlight or not at random.

hmm. the URLs what correspond to which section are unchanged from sidemenu->topmenu

Apart from that, I think this branch is ready to merge to the trunk (when I've committed the stuff to the branch, that is).

what+pages

jup. i have to leave for an hour or so. can you look at the topmenu stuff, and add the 2nd row i explained above?

e.g. find the section out of About,News,Products... and display the subnavigation

Oh, I see. I wonder if that's entirely necessary.. I'll give it a go.

there's no other menu left for people without JS (no dropdowns) ;)

http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/JavaScript says "be perfectly usable without any JavaScript"

yup. good advice.

it's beyond my imagination why anyone would do that. secure your comp, do not use IE and you are safe to turn on any fancy feature you'd like

ok. see you soonish

people use javascript for annoying stuff like browser moving/resizing

and not everyone knows how to turn off just those parts in Firefox and other browsers that support disabling it selectively instead of as a whole

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djce: FYI picard works great for me in unstable now.

cool thanks for the tip.

Which debian packages did you have to install for that?

(e.g. dpkg -l | grep -i wx)

ii libwxgtk2.6-0 2.6.1.2 wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime)

ii python-wxgtk2.6 2.6.1.2 wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython binding)

ii python-wxversion 2.6.1.2 wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython version selec

cool thanks.

I might try that later.

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djce: fyi, i'm back

thx for the heads up on the navigation branch

by the way, dropdowns can be entirely in CSS and use spans or divs if you wanted to avoid javascript

and for non-CSS browsers, uh.. i think you can just make it look like a tree rather than having only top levels on page and children expand as menus (the CSS's job)

i've seen those, but they flicker on mouseovers n stuff.

no delays for closing either. it's just more "application-like" with js

but MB is a website, not application :P

and css menus flicker only in IE and only if they have image background

meyerweb tends to have the best CSS anywhere.

a) there is a background, b) IE 4,5,6 still 75%

we don't need that background..

isn't IE mostly used because of the tagger embedding IE?

just kidding. but i've experimented with liquid design, and APR. tables still rule, as does JS for interaction

nikki_: general statistics of w3schools.com

hmm.

i just have different opinion about making webs, that's all :)

more css, less js

I was born years too late

I would have been right at home with text browsers back in the day, I bet.

then they had to go and make it complicated!

nikki_: yup, and dark color schemes aren't fashionable too :)

nikki_: lynx and elinks still work perfectly well

web pages are still only a text documents, not desktop applications

dseomn: people still like to make websites which require fancy crap

luks: i certainly agree. make MB.org skinnable as a next project

luks: except for ones with activex

links works *really* well in framebuffer mode

nikki_: true

I prefer opera, it lets me turn off as much crap as I want

maximander: what kind of geek are you? text is fun (and works with screen)

you can bitch about the evolution of the web as much as you like, but interactive websites like gmail, google maps, last.fm's tag editor is the future

css plays an important part in ajax

dseomn: framebuffer is still ok in screen

maximander: by "works with screen" I meant it will go away with a detach and come back after a reattach

dseomn: links in framebuffer is still text based, it just renders images

I know