#musicbrainz

$ 861.59 in donations for this month!

Wooooot!

wow!

damn near pays for one machine we put into service.

god damn it.

i think i washed my wallet...

:-)

euros survive it mostly

so do dollars... but i dont carry cash

im more worried about my social security card and... whatever other paper card i had

social security cards? you clearly live in usa, even though i haven't heard of a such card before, it can only be in usa :p

yes, yes

needed for identification on a national level...

racism on a piece of paper? :p

well, not exactly

the card only has a name and number on it

the records associated with that number, i cannot be sure of, nor all of their uses

can anyone think of a use for the inserts to a CD you dont own?

does anyone want to vote on a superflous mod of mine, before someone notices? ;-)

thanks for the votes!

:)

did i vote right? :p

perfectly. the change is already applied :-)

hehe

does anyone here have a favourite perl module for parsing RSS?

hmm

the only thing that's coming to mind is XML::Simple or something

I remember it being a pain in the arse.

oh

http://www.google.com/search?q=rss%20perl ?

HenkPoley: don't most people go to cpan for perl modules? :P

HenkPoley: I'd rather search cpan :-)

Whatever :-P

jsimmons_away is now known as jsimmons

ruaok: Hey Rob, you around?

yep.

Got a question. We now have 3 servers. What is each of them doing?

man you too finally managed to catch eachother

SenRepus: given that we live in the same town, thats even funnier. :-)

heh

jsimmons: zim: no change

bender: TRM only

catbus: postgres only

poor bender :-(

I thought catbus was going to do TRM?

zim is still: HTTP, FTP, CVS, chatlog, and whatever else we do on zim.

Private line between catbus and zim?

yalaforge: I agree. Bender is our best machine and its relegated to TRM duties.

Bender only has one public address?

jsimmons: yes

cikkolata: yes, catbus was supposed to do TRM.

cikkolata: moving the TRM server was more difficult than moving postgres apparently

But... the relatable people are AWOL.

ruaok: OK, got it. Is dave due in today?

And we need them to help move the TRM server.

I like postres though :)

So in a pinch we rotated the machines.

jsimmons: not certain if he will show up here today.

drop him line if you have something specific.

whats postres?

desert in spanish.

database thing

postgres is our DB :-)

whats postgres

lol

i see

ruaok: nah, just hoped he'd be around when i reload his firewall

and SQL database server.

a relational database management system

jsimmons: yes, I'd like for him to be present for that. :-)

object relational even

yalaforge: is that what OIDs are for?

ok so... im sure this has been asked before like 30 times but...

with TRMs going away with the new tagger, how are songs identified

ruaok: usually OIDs are the internal identifier for a row of data

ah.

much like we do row ids, but we do it on a higher level?

yup

but it's just short for object identifier, so could very well be anything

SenRepus: http://blog.musicbrainz.org/archives/2004/11/lu...

lucene beats the pants off TRM for track identification.

yeah!

speed, scalability, portability and accuracy.

All things I care about a great deal!

might be a fun project to port a part of our web service on top of lucene

yes.

like search.mb.org, but for WS?

awesome

ruaok: yup

or even design a new and very simple one

once AR is out and the non-profit announced, I'll work to make picard the baddest ass tagger around.

no RDF, just XML for the unwashed masses ;->

"the non profit"?

one of my directors might have a serious fit if I stop using RDF, but that is a risk I'm willing to take.

SenRepus: read: test.metabrainz.org

I'd really like to clean up mb_server a bit. I've got detailed plans, we should talk about it when you're in .de

deal.

let me know when you get your schedule and we'll make a plan.

ruaok: we should really stick with RDF. just an alternative interface

ruaok: ok

ruaok: How do I access the chatlog?

lol

my url was the longest ;-)

but last!

(at least here)

mine was first!

hm.

here ruaok was first

boo.

:-P

what a bunch of kids we are

no, kids argue and shout more

yup. this chat is the most time-killing thing I know

we're just silly.

Knio-sleep is now known as Knio

a soon to be lawyer friend of mine signed a recent email with:

As always, IANAL(y).

:-)

I love the (y) part.

Once he does become a lawyer, I want MB to be is first and ongoing pro-bono case. :-)

man im bad

y == yet

you should read the rest of the mail. I don't get *that*. :-)

it would help if i knew what IANAL stood for, but now i get it... whatever whatever whatever at law

atournay at law

ruaok: OK, I'm gonna reload the firewall on catbus - if you give me the OK

IANAL = I am not a lawyer

what is a our strategy for undoing a fuck-up?

SenRepus: it's usually I am not a lawyer

bah

typically after you've given legal advice

stop being faster than me >_<

oh

ruaok: do we have one? Guess phone HE - this should be simple, though