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      • yllona
        no i agree with you. it's tough for "real artists" all over the world
      • lets's not mention china
      • mustaqila
        SO, how's about China?
      • :P
      • PRAEst76 sends out peaceful vibes across the room but keeps the phone number for the riot squad handy
      • yllona
        :-D
      • nechto13
        what I was saying is that let's take Russia before Putin. I can take any artist that I know of and their releases at the time and they sing about three or four different things at best. That's if they are actually good and compare to Visotsky who's compilations cover dozens of different most times unrelated topics
      • that's all
      • yllona
        nechto13: i can match you there, with US artists.... but i'll let it go.
      • yllona sips vodka and cranberry, thanks mother russia :P
      • nechto13 graciously accepts the peace pipe from yllona
      • yllona blows a kiss at nechto13
      • nechto13
        I actually would like to know the names of the artists
      • especially if they're good
      • I'm all about learning
      • yllona
        i can send you a list, or can create a radio station on last.fm (but the catalog might be limited)
      • nechto13
        go for it, thanks in advance
      • yllona
        well for starters check out the musical activism radio station on last.fm most of that stuff is from the '60s & '70s
      • and i'll create a playlist for you in itunes, then send you the HTML of the lsit
      • *list
      • nechto13
        thanks
      • yllona
        np
      • yllona is listening to Terraplane Blues by Robert Johnson from Nothing But the Blues: Cross Road Blues (1936) (0:09 / 3:01)
      • here's an example... pokes nechto13
      • legend has it that robert johnson, sold his sold to the devil to sing the blues... like faust
      • *sold his soul
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      • nechto13
        they say that about so many US artists who are good that I lost track of how many artists' souls devil has
      • yllona
        heh, robert john is the myth that all the rest are based on
      • seriously
      • nechto13
        I hope the devil's better at keeping tabs on this cause he might be missing a lot of souls
      • yllona
        there are a lot of pretenders out there...
      • nechto13
        what's great about musicians with large variety in song subject matter or musical stlye is that you constantly keep rediscovering them, which I find to be an extremely rewarfing experience. hmm, maybe I should come up with a better example. For instance, tom waits
      • yllona loves tom waits
      • i know quite a few artists who sing protest music
      • as a matter of fact I've been to oliver mutukudze's concert when he came through austin that was something else
      • yllona
        tuku is fantastc
      • nechto13
        i wholeheartedly agree
      • yllona
        here's another...
      • yllona is listening to For No One by Zap Mama from Sabsylma (1994) (0:17 / 4:52)
      • they sing in about 10 languages, tho mostly french and englis
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      • nechto13
        yep, I know Zap Mama too. I actually have so much good music now that I have to make time to discover new good music. it's all because of the mp3 blogs
      • klaaner-libby
        Hi :-) How long does it take that a change on an album appears online? Yesterday evening, I deleted an album without song lengths (that I posted before) and imported it from freedb (I also posted it there), but still the two albums are online: http://musicbrainz.org/album/6bb223a7-c0f0-4f57...
      • nechto13
        your changes have to be voted on before they are accepted
      • srotta
        Hmmm.
      • You do know that you can edit the track times these days?-)
      • klaaner-libby
        nechto13: Okay ... and nothing changes if there's no vite for it? It's a quite small band so I don't think that anybody will vote for changes ...
      • srotta: I tried to edit them but it didn't work
      • srotta: So I thought it woulkd be easyer to re-import the whole album
      • srotta
        Also, the MB should calculate the track times since that album has a disc id.
      • nechto13
        it's ok if it's small do you have a link to the release I'll vote for it if I can check your changes
      • klaaner-libby
      • srotta
        Also, as teleguise has noted in the mods, since the Add Album is still open, you don't have to remove the album, you can just delete the addition.
      • nechto13
        no, I mean a link outside of Musicbrainz daatabase
      • like artist's website or something
      • *database
      • klaaner-libby
      • nechto13: Under "Music"
      • teleGUISE
        klanner-libby just delete the edits (mods) that I mentioned.. and add the disc id to your newly imported release
      • klaaner-libby that was... ;)
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE: Erm ... how do I do that?
      • teleGUISE
        also if you would please add the other supporting release information like suggested here - http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ReleaseAnnotationStyle
      • which part? didn't you add the disc-id to the version of the release without track times?
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE: I tried to upload TRMs with the Windose Tagger program ... perhaps it uploaded the disc ID
      • teleGUISE: I have typed in the first album manually
      • nechto13
        klaaner-libby: you should have imported it from freesb.org instead of typing
      • that way you'd have the times in there
      • teleGUISE
        though sometimes typing it in is easier and more accurate then correcting foobared freedb data ;)
      • klaaner-libby
        nechto13: I also uploaded it to freedb ... but it didn't work for ... 10 times or so, so I typed it in ... later, I could upload it to freedb
      • teleGUISE
        freedb takes sometimes a few hours to a day to post your upload to them
      • klaaner-libby
        Well all two posts are from me ;-)
      • teleGUISE: I didn't know that
      • teleGUISE
        it depends on server traffic
      • anyhow back to the discid didn't you add the one to the release you originally typed in?
      • klaaner-libby
        I think it was the windose tagger that uploaded �t.
      • I didn't say: "Upload the Disc ID"
      • I just said "Upload the TRM"
      • But he didn't ...
      • nechto13
        klaaner-libby: you should delete the three remove album mods like teleGUISE said
      • klaaner-libby
        nechto13: sorry, but HOW?
      • teleGUISE
        that would be nice for modbot
      • like I mentioned click on those links and then simply click on 'Delete mod'
      • klaaner-libby
        Damn that's quite complicated
      • teleGUISE
        I moved the disc id over
      • Whats complicated?? Clicking the links I just provided for you and then clicking 'Delete' ????
      • klaaner-libby
        Okay, I have deletem them (I hope so)
      • nechto13
        hmm, why was the freedb import deleted?
      • we could have just approved that and klaaner-libby could have deleted all other mods
      • teleGUISE
        And while your at it... you now can delete this one to, since I moved the disc id.. In the future you don't have to delete a disc id from an album thats being removed -- http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3815975
      • klaaner-libby
        Okay, deleted
      • teleGUISE
        I didnt tell you to delete that one ...
      • yes I did to above ...
      • but to answer nechto13 's comment about the freedb import..
      • klaaner-libby you also deleted the good one ;)
      • klaaner-libby
        damn
      • nechto13 turns the faucet and washes his hands
      • I'm kind of confused ... sorry ;-)
      • Could we simply delete all that stuff and re-import it from freedb?
      • Kind of a "reboot"? ;-)
      • nechto13
        is there a way to undo a delete on a mod, I realize it's probably a pretty absurd thing to do, but is that possible?
      • klaaner-libby
        Could'nt we delete ALL the stuff and redo the album?
      • teleGUISE
      • klaaner-libby
        Okay, that's what we ant to have :-)
      • teleGUISE: Should I add my annotation there?
      • teleGUISE
        look again ;)
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE: Cool!"
      • teleGUISE
        actually if you could fill in the places I left empty.. ie record label and catalog #
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE: Well, the album hasn't a label and catalogue #
      • juhae
        hmm
      • teleGUISE
        Is it a CD-R or is it a glass mastered stamped disc
      • klaaner-libby
        It's a dman cool album, but they sell it teirselves
      • teleGUISE: it's glass mastered
      • teleGUISE
        and they didnt give it any kind of number?
      • klaaner-libby
        No, it was too expensive or so they said
      • teleGUISE
        Like... album01
      • juhae
      • klaaner-libby
        perhaps, they will add one later
      • nechto13 weeps tears of joy after seeing teleGUISE's beautiful work
      • teleGUISE
        hmmm... nothing in the print on the op of the disc eh
      • ;)
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE: no ;-)
      • juhae
        I mean, shouldn't sortnames be <lastname>, <firstname>
      • Instead of <lastname> <firstname>
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE, nechto13: But what about the thwo other album entries? How can they be deleted?
      • teleGUISE
        in about 5 minutes they will be
      • well being the poor server is so loaded give it about 7-8 minutes ;)
      • juhae
      • N-bombs ahoy
      • gupi has a huge load of mods like that
      • teleGUISE
        eeewwwww... what a mess!!!
      • juhae
        And Tronger has voted Y :P
      • teleGUISE
        imagine that :P
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE: Can I also submit the TRMs?
      • juhae
        Yeah, I'm totally flabbergasted
      • Haha, he gave a yes on every of those mods :)
      • teleGUISE
      • juhae
        YEs :D
      • That omits the part about "voting Yes on mods which aren't correct" though :)
      • teleGUISE
        oops.. i thought that was part of the defniition
      • yes.. I just notice that
      • hmmm ... just looking gupi has been a member over a year... had he been a nooob I might have help correct his stuff but seeing that ... forget it..
      • nechto13
        i'm not voting until i see mods with commas in them
      • teleGUISE
        actually can we get a yes here for klaaner-libby - http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3815413 just to finish this off...
      • juhae
        ding!
      • klaaner-libby
        teleGUISE: Can I vote "yes" there? I mean, I posted it ...