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      • ojnkpjg
        then add titles
      • Kilu
        call me lazy
      • juhae
        answer: not hard at all :P
      • ojnkpjg
        ok
      • juhae
        You can't be lazy if you're doing things the more complicated way :D
      • ojnkpjg
        but you ought not gripe about it taking forever if you admit it's that way because you're lazy
      • Kilu
        it wouldn't have been complicated if the mods would have been voted through when I asked
      • everything would be ready now
      • ojnkpjg
        it's a bit selfish to rely on others to do your bidding because you couldn't be bothered to do things the correct way first
      • Kilu
        well, I guess it was wrong for me to rely on you guys
      • obviously
      • ojnkpjg
        nobody's going to vote yes on a wrong mod
      • Kilu
        it has been done before
      • ojnkpjg
        ok, well, in any case, i don't think you have any justified complaint
      • Kilu
        think what you will, but I have asked favours like this before when converting from album to various, and this is the first time someone was so anal about it
      • ojnkpjg
        you admit you entered mods that were wrong because you were too lazy to do it the right way
      • Kilu
        yes
      • ojnkpjg
        ok.
      • juhae
        :P
      • Kilu
        I'm lazy because it takes a lot more my time to import va album than to import single artist album, convert to va, not to move the tracks, and then move 4 tracks to correct artists
      • ojnkpjg
        and you're selfish because you ask others to spend their time reviewing the mods so you can save yours, and you increase the pending mod queue by 6 instead of 1
      • and if any of them fails, you end up with bad data in the db
      • Kilu
        actually there would have been only 4 pending mods, because I would have asked a favour from automod to make the album-> va conversion, so I wouldn't have to wait for an hour to modbot close the mods.
      • oh and just so you know, this is the way that was proposed to me by automod last time I was whining about va conversion tediousness :D
      • ojnkpjg
        who?
      • Kilu
        don't remember
      • ojnkpjg
        well, it's a terrible suggestion
      • if you can't be bothered to do things correctly, don't do them at all, if you're going to complain later
      • Kilu
        I was making some ogre battle mod few months back. it's a three disc album with about 120 tracks in total for three artists. about 50% of the tracks are by one artist. can you imagine the work that it would be to go through 120 tracks one by one
      • this way I only had to change the artist in 60 tracks instead of 120.
      • ojnkpjg
        and in the process introduce 61 points of failure
      • Kilu
        yes
      • but what should matter is that the data is correct now
      • not what it was before
      • ojnkpjg
        because at the time you ask people to vote for you, there is no guarantee it will end up that way
      • what if you get some random no votes along the way
      • maybe on the ->VA mod
      • Kilu
        as I said, I would have asked a favour from automod to make the album-> va conversion, so I wouldn't have to wait for an hour to modbot close the mods
      • ojnkpjg
        ok, then only 60 points of failure
      • instead of 0
      • because you're lazy
      • and you complain
      • i agree that i can be tedious but, it's the way it is right now
      • Kilu
        everyone complains
      • cretwit
        How come I'm suddenly reminded of my ex-girlfriend?
      • ojnkpjg
        i've spent enough time entering them to know
      • Kilu
        I still don't understand why does it matter what the data will be at some point. only thing that should matter is that the data will be correct in the end.
      • ojnkpjg
        well, let me know when you've found a way to predict the future
      • Kilu
        I wasn't going to predict future. I expected people to vote yes based on the comment I made, and as the hour was almost up it would have passed at the hour. then I would have asked automod to make the ->va. and then move the couple traks to different artists. as I said before, it has been done before. I just hope that next time I ask a favour in these parts you are not here
      • ojnkpjg
        i'd like to point out you got no yes votes on those wrong adds
      • and there's no reason to make it personal
      • Kilu
        I expect that there are no yes votes because you made such a big fuss out of it
      • ojnkpjg
        i don't think you're in any epistemic position to have any justified belief of that sort
      • this is tiresome, though
      • you admit they're wrong
      • you admit it's because you're lazy
      • just save everybody the trouble and do it right
      • Kilu
        well, as I said, it has been done before, so I expected it to work this time as well
      • nikki_ blinks
      • but I guess it all depends on the people who are active
      • last time it took 2 minutes to get the votes eventhough it was as wrong as this time
      • nikki_ chuckles
      • nikki_
        cretwit: "since MB is more anal-retentive than toddlers with OCD" bwaha! hilarious
      • g0llum
        aww luks: i think i made a mistake. i'll revert the mods :]
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      • luks
        !!
      • ruaok
        luks: nice bug you found.
      • not sure how to attack that. :-(
      • luks
        what bug?
      • ah
      • ruaok
        if someone hacks the perl module to be a compliant sub-set of moin, we can probably patch this too.
      • but I'm not sure I want to patch the module just for this one little thing. ;(
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      • luks
        is there some way how do disable CamelCase links in Text::WikiFormat?
      • ruaok
        yes.
      • but I really dig the links to the wiki.
      • I think that's a valuable feature.
      • luks
        yeah, but we can do [http://wiki.mb.org/BlaBla BlaBla] instead
      • _mo
        awwww
      • _mo bow
      • ruaok
        lol
      • _mo
        I've been askign for this since before they went live thank you thank you thnak you THANK YOU
      • ruaok
        best 10 lines of perl I've written in ages. :)
      • ruaok owes chromatic a beer
      • _mo
        over the year i will go rent more music and now when i add the annotiations.. YAY newlines. amd bulleted lists!
      • <3333!!
      • chromatic fixed it?
      • _mo is now known as chocomo
      • chocomo
        he gets some choco to
      • everybody gets some choco
      • even the floor I'm about to was
      • chocomo is HAPPy
      • lindestinel
        i hate people voting no on mod without adding a note
      • Shepard
        you have to update the wiki pages about it then when it goes live :)
      • chocomo
        hmm!
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      • inhouseuk notices the bug causing MBQ_GetCDInfo returning too many tracks where the discid matches more than one album has been fixed and removed the work around hack from his code
      • chocomo sneeses and goes to vacuume and wash the kitchen floor. yay
      • chocomo was laso not sarcastic about the 'yay' part
      • chocomo is weird
      • inhouseuk was puzzled when his code only returned 15 tracks on a 30 track album :(
      • chocomo thinks that is indeed weird
      • chocomo away: afk
      • Shepard
        when i click on preview in the annotation editor i get a Preview and a Summary Preview section and see no difference there...
      • how are they supposed to differ?
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      • also the "Differences" section does not yet use the wiki syntax and so does not show newlines but that's ok i think :)
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      • g0llum
        for the "element" artist
      • Shepard
        but only because it's christmas :)
      • that's the best excuse for being an asshat for the rest of the year btw
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      • yllona
        g0llum: i'm going to add the kathleen battle/wynton marsalils baroque duet with the disaster relief guidelines. give it a look over,and please also check my german spelling/punctuation
      • *marsalis
      • Shepard
        hi yllona
      • I'll correct the caps :)
      • yllona
        thanks! and again the problem with track times off in the MB entry
      • and there no gaps between the tracks on teh CD (or LP)
      • Shepard
        clutcher needs to look over it for italian caps
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      • yllona
        so the disc IDs have ~4-5 second length diff than the total time on CD
      • i just re-ripped the CD also. my track times on rip match the times on CD
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      • nikki_
        fuchs: I'm glad I'm not the only person annoyed by the single numbers :)
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      • yllona
        for this orchestra would the founded date be 1974 or 1979: "First organized at the Caramoor International Music Festival in the summer of 1979, the Orchestra evolved from the St. Luke's Chamber Ensemble, which was established in 1974 with Ensemble members forming the Orchestra's artistic core as principal players."
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      • l8nite_
        yllona: 1979